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« : May 12, 2004, 02:56:41 AM »

I know we used to have a topic about this, but I cant find it!  Soooo I thought it'd be useful to keep all we find out about the Extended Edition in one place!

Ive read several sites and articles, and as usual TORN offers the most complete synopsis :)  Some of which, of course, is supposition..... (Courtesy of Datacomm and transalated by those at TORN :))


  • The borderline:

A beautiful scene, before the two hobbits, guided by Gollum, walk on… The hobbits catch sight of a huge monument and statues. Up to this scene the sky wasn't edit digitally… from now on it's getting darker and darker … a cursed environment. In this scene you see the title of the movie "The Return of the King"

  • Saruman's disempowerment:

Saruman's last dialog with Gandalf, Theoden and the others will only be seen on the SEE. Saruman is going to appear on the balcony, trying to bewitch the fellowship one last time by talking to them. But Gandalf breaks Saruman's wand. After that Wormtongue and Saruman appear on the roof of the Orthanc. Saruman treats his servant like a dog and threatens him with a knife. But Wormtongue fights back, grabs the knife and throws Saruman from the Orthanc. His own weapons pierce Saruman and Legolas kills Wormtongue with one of his arrows.

  • Edoras: Merry's vow of fidelity:

During the whole movie Merry serves the King, Theoden. But why? Like it was shown in the first teaser of the trilogy: the king dubs Merry knight of Rohan. Merry offers his services and Theoden accepts and hands him a sword.

Dialogue:

"I offer you my service, King Theoden" Merry is given a knighthood.

  • Edoras: Dialogue between Eowyn and Eomer concerning Merry:

Like we have seen in the cinema version, Eomer can't believe that Merry is able to take part in a battle. There will be a typical brother-sister scene on the SEE, concerning this topic. The existence of such a scene is confirmed by a "making off video", because Peter Jackson mentions a "Brother and Sister" moment.

  • Edoras: A "drinking game" during the celebration:

After the success in Isengard, Aragorn, Merry, Gimli, Theoden and the others go to Edoras. There will be some new elements in the scene were both hobbits dance on the table while Gandalf talks to Aragorn about Frodo... the SEE will show another funny scene (which isn't in the book) . Legolas and Gimli play a drinking game...
Dialogue:

Legolas: "So, it's a drinking game?"

Laughing and screaming of the others

Legolas: "What exactly is the point of it?"

Gimli: "Last one standing wins."

  • Edoras: Extended discussion:

In Edoras Aragorn and Gandalf talk about their proceeding. There will be more dialogues than in the cinema version.

Dialogue:

Gandalf:  "If the ring is destroyed, Sauron will fall and his fall will be so low that none will see his arising ever again… but if Sauron regains the ring, his victory will be swift and complete. Things are now in motion that cannot be undone. Sauron has looked into the face of young Peregrin Took and mistaken him for the Ringbearer".  
Aragorn:  "He has gone unchallenged long enough."

  • Edoras: Changed Farewell

Merry says good bye to Pippin, who seems to be very sad. Merry bolsters Pippin and tells him that they will see each other in the shire. As far as I know, a new scene replaced this one. We won't see this dialogue on the SEE and we won't hear the sentence "We shall see the Shire again."

  • Edoras: Extended Farewell:

After Gandalf and Pippin left, Aragorn tells Merry, that Pippin will only be save at Minas Tirith, because Saruman thinks he is the ring bearer. That's why Gandalf has to bring him away. In the cinema version, Aragorn doesn't say anything. Before Pippin leaves Edoras, Aragorn gives him back his elven leaf brooch.

  • Add-ons in Rivendell:

The scenes between Arwen and Elrond in Rivendell will be longer. As seen on the trailer, Elrond tells his daughter that he is not able to protect her anymore. There is another scene where Arwen falls into her fathers’ arms. Is there a connection between this and the paths of dead she discovers in her book? Arwen will also say some more words in the language of the elves.

Dialogue:

Elrond to Arwen on the bridge: "You have given away your life’s grace. I cannot protect you anymore"

These two dialogues are not in the cinema version: Arwen says: "Give him the sword of the King"
Elrond: "The enemy will never let Aragorn come to the throne of Gondor."

  • Extended Paths of the dead:

There is supposed to be a corridor in the cave, full of skulls and bones on the floor and left and right in the walls. At one point Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas will be threatened by an avalanche of skulls. After leaving the cage there has to happen something else, because Aragorn’s sword looks bloody. Legolas is also supposed to have some more sentences.

  • Legolas will kill Peter Jackson, who supposed to have a cameo appearance as a corsair captain.

In the cinema version you only see a little bit of the paths of the dead, no skulls, no altars, no bloody sword, no corsair ships. I am sure they will be shown here, because Gandalf talks about them twice.

  • The Corsair Ships


After the paths of the dead Gimli, Legolas and Aragorn board the ships and conquer the corsairs. But which scenes do we see on these two pictures? Which scenes will be shown on the SEE? Do we see how they board the ships? Yes, but without the ghosts, because they will appear later, as a surprise, on in the Pelennor Fields.

  • Minas Tirith: Longer dialogue between Faramir and Denethor:

Faramir is supposed to tell his father that he did let Frodo and Sam escape (with the ring) on purpose, breaking his father's rules.

While Pippin talks to Denethor, Faramir stands at his side. Shortly after that Denethir announces that those who break the rules have to be punished. A hint that Faramir really told him about the hobbits? A script section asserts that there will be a flashback, where Faramir tells his father about Boromirs death and hands him the broken horn. In another scene Pippin is going to get an armor from Faramir.
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« #1 : May 12, 2004, 02:57:11 AM »

  • Orc Tower: Add-on

We might see a scene where an Orc is able to flee from the tower (you see this Orc in the Video Game holding Frodo’s Mithril chain mail) There are also some scenes where Orcs and Uruks fight with each other because of this alb.

  • Siege of Minas Tirith: Extended battle scenes

In the cinema version they didn't show how the enemy built up its war machinery. They also don't show how the White City is conquered. The enemy tries to destroy the gates with small battering rams. These weren't shown in the movie, but they will be on the SEE DVD. Soldiers of Gondor try to prevent this with the help of their arrows. They won't show how they draw their bows, but we will see how they shoot their arrows.
 
  • Siege of Minas Tirith: Gandalf vs. Witchking

In the movie the witchking said that he would fight the White Wizard … who suddenly doesn't have his wand anymore….

Pippin finally found Gandalf and managed to calm down the mad Denethor. The wizard carries his wand. He puts Pippin on the back of his horse - but when he reaches Denethor he doesn't have his wand anymore and looks like he has just taken part in a fight. In between those scenes it is likely that they meet the Witchking and Gandalf loses the fight, but the Witchking is distracted by something - that's why Gandalf and Pippin are able to flee… he might be distracted by the troops of Rohan (he probably hears the horns) or by something else … who knows… it is likely that he wouldn't stay on his beast during the fight and that Gandalf wouldn't fight on the back of his horse. The scene was filmed with a normal Nazgul first and later with the Witchking.

  • Battle on the Pelennor Fields: extended battle scenes:

It is said that we will see more digital effects on the SEE DVD, also the sky is supposed to be darkened. There are different possibilities what we will see during these battle scenes: it's possible that we will see more of the Eastlings, a longer dialogue between Eowyn and the Witchking, a scene where Argorn wins the fight against Orc leader and Gimli hits him with his axe. Orcs are also supposed to fight on the dead Olifants and after Theoden's death Eowyn will fight some more Orcs, protecting Pippin, who will find Merry later on.

  • Pelennor-Fields: Locating Eowyn and Merry

Eowyn was brave, defeated the witchking and was injured. We didn't see what happened afterwards. But somehow they must have found her, mourned and acclaimed her. On this picture we see how Eomer finds his sister on the battlefield.

  • Minas Tirith: After the battle

After the battle on the fields Aragorn is the only one who can help the wounded Faramir, Eowyn and Merry and save their lives. Only the healing hands of the king can save them. Afterwards Faramir and Eowyn get closer.

  • Minas Tirith: Aragorn as king

After healing Faramir, Eowyn and Merry, Aragorn is already accepted as king. After that he takes up his role as king and only during the next day they discuss the next proceedings. Gandalf at the meeting in Minas Tirith:  "Either Frodo destroys the ring, or we face Sauron’s victory."

  • Minas Tirith: Aragorn looks into the Palantir

After some discussions Aragorn decides to look into the Palantir, to show Sauron that Isildur's heir is found. King Elessar could bring together mankind. That's what Sauron fears and that's what should distract him from Frodo and Sam. Sauron and his army wait for Elessar at the gate….

  • At the Black Gate: Sauron's Mouth

One of the most dreadful myrmidon in the book. A scene a lot of book fans hoped to see in the movie: cruel, full of emotions, and ingenious. The Mouth Saurons, Saurons negotiator. There is a slight chance that we see this horrible creature on the SEE DVD. Probably in the last fight with Aragorn. Some people say you can see Frodo’s Mithril chain mail lying on the floor in the cinema version.. another hint, that we might see such a scene…

Theory1:

The Mouth of Sauron shows this chain mail to Gandalf and Aragorn, as a proof, that Frodo is dead. After that we will see a long dialogue between Gandalf, Aragorn and Saurons Mouth.. after that the black rider disappears and the Black Gate is opened, the enemy starts to march. We will see some scenes of Frodo and Sam before we return to the Black Gate, where the enemies surround Aragron and his troops. The Mouth of Sauron reappears and starts an attack.. Aragorn fights against him and wins but loses his horse to the Eastlings. Another cut to Sam, this time he fights against Gollum and tells him to beat it. Back at the Black Gate the Eastlings are beaten. Aragorn forms up his troops and then we hear the famous sentence: "For Frodo!"

Theory2:

Nobody knows if this is correct, because you don't see the body of Saurons Mouth, Aragorn’s dead horse or the bodies of the Eastlings … besides when Aragorn and his troops approach the Black Gate, his sword is in his scabbard. As he rides back, his bloody sword is in his hand and his face is full of mud. A hint that Saurons Mouth is killed at the beginning and the fact of the missing horses is just a blooper? However the book "Lord of the rings - Weapons and Warfare" hints at Saurons Mouth death (or defeat).

However, it's pretty sure that we will see some enhancements here. Ex. in a making off video you see that Gandalf is talking to Aragorn before they ride towards the Black Gate: "We are being watched". It's possible that is a scene from the SEE DVD … or that we won't see this at all?
 

  • Mordor: Add-ons

After Frodo’s pretended death we will see some more things. Sam is going to hold Sting, both hobbits will take off their armors….and Sam leaves behind his pans. At the end both hobbits meet an Orc army, but because they don't have the armors anymore they are not recognized.

  • Minas Tirith: Marriages and the new tree

Gandalf shows Pippin the tree in Minas Tirith who starts to bloom again. And we might see the wedding between Arwen and Aragorn and Faramir and Eowyn - I don't believe it - however both scenes were filmed. We might also see how Eomer is crowned king of Rohan. Only after that scene the characters will say good bye to each other.

  • End: Epilogue

Galadriel is supposed to hold an epilogue at the end, in which she explains what happens to the characters, because they don't want to show all the scenes in the movie… it's possible, because she also holds an epilogue at the beginning of the first movie.

 
Back in the Shire:
I am sure we will see more scenes when the hobbits return to the Shire …. because New Line Cinema wanted to keep these photos secret and the scene isn't in the cinema version. Perhaps we get to know why Frodo decides to leave the Shire and sail away with the ring bearers.  


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« #2 : May 12, 2004, 11:44:24 PM »

Ok...seeing as you mentioned it here, i suppose here is the place for these pics...(tho, feel free to delete if not.... :-\)

LEGOLAS (and gimli...but hes not seen) DRINKING GAME! ;D











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« #3 : May 12, 2004, 11:49:29 PM »

Oooh excellent pictures! Are there anymore doing the rounds?

So are we gonna place bets on who will win their competition? My bet's on Gimli. The way Legolas is looking at the ale in those pictures, I imagine he might be a bit of a lightweight  :P

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« #4 : May 13, 2004, 12:05:28 AM »

awww Excellent Pics Sirith!!  found any more ???



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« #5 : May 13, 2004, 02:51:33 AM »

Im the hobbit it siad elves didnt get drunk easily, so leggy might win. The drinking game will be funny, whoever wins. ;D
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« #6 : May 13, 2004, 03:19:24 AM »

I sure do hope that they do include TMOS! He were me favourite char in the book. Dunno why like, just liked him i guess. He was so cool, yet so evil.
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« #7 : May 13, 2004, 03:47:01 AM »

I'm really keen to see the "Voice of Saruman" bits, even though slightly changed. I can only IMAGINE how Christopher Lee will chew up some scenery there. :)

No more new Sméagol bits then? *pout*

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« #8 : May 13, 2004, 03:49:32 AM »

Does anybody have any idea's as to what statue we'll be getting this time?

How about a Sam carrying Frodo over his shoulder?  :)

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« #9 : May 13, 2004, 05:18:37 AM »

I think maybe Legolas will get one over on Gimli and win the drinking game, much to Gimli's suprise!

As for the statue, how about each side of The Black Gate? Or even two halves of Minas Tirith?
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« #10 : May 13, 2004, 05:23:27 AM »

yeah !  but elves cant take their drink!  theyre not even supposed to like it!  (must be a rogue gene I have ;) LOL)

the only rumours Ive heard is that its something to do with Aragorn... re the statuette.... but they are only rumours, and old ones at that!



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« #11 : May 13, 2004, 08:13:58 PM »

I can't wait to see that drinking scene and the Houses of Healing as well, coz that was vry funny in the books!!! ;D
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« #12 : May 15, 2004, 04:48:24 PM »

I think that The Mouth of Sauron wil definately be in there as In LOTR Weapons and Warefare, he has a page, it shows his armour and weapon and helmet.
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« #13 : May 15, 2004, 04:55:18 PM »

aww yeah!  Id forgotten that!

heres a pic of it!



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« #14 : May 17, 2004, 03:49:35 AM »

Pelennor-Fields: Locating Eowyn and Merry
Eowyn was brave, defeated the witchking and was injured. We didn't see what happened afterwards. But somehow they must have found her, mourned and acclaimed her. On this picture we see how Eomer finds his sister on the battlefield.D

I saw a programme on ITV (I think it was ITV) a couple of weeks ago called 'Film makers Journey', it was about an hour long and it was a behind the scenes documentary. We glimpsed a couple of extra clips that weren't in the original ROTK cinema release and one part was Eomer standing on the battlefield looking absolutely heartbroken. The clip was all of a couple of sconds long but the sheer emotion on his face was breathtaking! :o Did anyone else see this? I can't wait for the extended dvd! ;D
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