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« : September 10, 2006, 04:38:57 PM »

in return of the king who is the character that Smegall/gollum chokes to death for the ring?

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« #1 : September 10, 2006, 05:39:22 PM »

Deagol :)

I think he was his cousin... probably :P

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« #2 : September 14, 2006, 04:18:08 PM »

Déagol was never specified as his cousin, actually. He was only his "cousin" in the more old-fashioned meaning of the word: a relative. I expect he was more of a distant relative (third cousin once removed or something like that), because in TLOTR it specifically calls Déagol his friend (rather than relative). It is only from The Letters of JRR Tolkien that we know they were actually related, but even in the letters it doesn't say what the relation was. Tolkien also says that most members of the small community were related in some way, further suggesting that Déagol probably wasn't that close of a relative, and more of a friend.


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« #3 : September 14, 2006, 10:11:01 PM »

Well I've never read the books so I have an excuse for getting that wrong ::) :P

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« #4 : December 15, 2007, 06:40:14 AM »

i think its his cousin but they seemed to have a closer relatoinship........until smeagal found the ring >(
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« #5 : December 16, 2007, 06:12:40 PM »

I was under the impression they were just best friends


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« #6 : December 18, 2007, 04:24:10 AM »

I was under the impression they were just best friends

That's the way it always seemed to me too - best friends who happen to be tenuously (by our reckoning) related, sharing a great-great-grandfather or something like that.


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« #7 : December 20, 2007, 07:14:32 PM »

yes that's it


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