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« #15 : April 03, 2004, 03:12:53 AM »

I know that a lot of people don't like the chapter, 'The Council Of Elrond' because they believe that it drags on a bit.  In my opinion, I think that chapter is one of the best in any of the books.  I love reading about Gandalf and his visit to Orthanc, about Thranduil and Gollum escaping from Mirkwood.  And also Boromir's tale, his dreams and so forth.

I understand that it would not be suitable for a film audience (which is why only the most crucial of information was kept in the film), but the chapter in the book could have gone on forever, and I would not have cared.  I love reading about all the characters and how they got to where they were, the little histories etc.
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At first I wasn't sure on the Council of Elrond chapter (The first time I read it) because I did think it dragged on a bit but the second time I read it I really liked it because I understood it more, before I was just like "YEah.... okay.... get back to the story" But this time I have really had the chance to take notice in the book.
I love the first few chapters of the book so much coz it's all happy and nothing ever happens to the Shirelings (If you oculd call them that! ::)) and it's all the big party and everything.
After reading it again I have really taken notice of somethings I didn't realise the first time round and just though "Oooooh I remember r/p to that!" and "OMG I don't remember that bit at all!" and now I know a lot more about Tolkien's works than I did when I first read it I am noticing more and more things
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« #16 : April 03, 2004, 06:42:03 AM »

that the joy of reading it more than once...I think...I have picked up on so many things in do-overs...like did anyone notice that...Frodo...had some strange dreams...of the future maybe...of Tol Eressa...I missed that the first few times I read it...and when they were traveling with Strider....and he dreamed about Gandalf on top of Orthanic...I believe...

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« #17 : April 03, 2004, 08:16:05 AM »

The last time I read it, I learnt much about the fall of the northern Kingdom in the prologue, such as (not sure about the exact details) the Battle Of Fornost etc.[/size]
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« #18 : April 03, 2004, 09:18:03 AM »

you know I am drawing a complete blank...on this...you know what really got me for some reason...was when Tom B. is looking at the loot from the barrow-wights den...and he made the comment about the lost woman...for some reason...that just made me sad...

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« #19 : April 03, 2004, 04:12:58 PM »

I agree the 'Council of Elrond' was one incredibly boring chapter when you first read it, however after I read the whole of the trilogy and re-read that chapter I began to appreciate its significance. It says a lot about the history and the characters which are to undergo this quest. It also referred to certain elements of history which The Silmarillion explains. However, I would have to say my favourite part of the story would have to be in the realm of Galadriel. It's something so magical and yet relaxing there. It feels as if you are taking rest with the characters, which in my opinion makes Lord of the Rings magical because it does allow you the reader to be the 10th member of the Fellowship (or 11th depending if you consider the ring as a being)...
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« #20 : April 03, 2004, 05:53:39 PM »

I think it's a bit like one of those really 'deep' films where you have to watch/read it at least two or three times to understand it all. I loved the Council of Elrond! :-[









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« #21 : April 04, 2004, 09:55:00 AM »

    I was moved to tears by the behind the scenes workings of Sam, Merry, and Pippin to keep there friend Frodo in their minds eye and heart. They never skipped a beat in a watchfulness and love they had for Frodo. The kind of love that is rare and the greatest of treasures.
   The attention to detail in the Fellowship, setting a place for magic,beauty and that life can be full of peril and darkness is stunning. The descriptive and poetic writing of Tolkien is breathtaking and a work of art that has not only affected my life, but the life of those around me.
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« #22 : April 04, 2004, 10:57:54 AM »

oh...I know...and those who say otherwise...just really piss me off...anyone who says that Samwise and Frodo had a alternate relationship should be slapped...

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« #23 : April 04, 2004, 10:23:59 PM »

I really enjoyed reading the Fellowship of the Ring after reading the Hobbit.

I really liked reading the description of the places like Rivendell and Lothlorien. It was well described and the words that he used made the place really effective as well. It gave me a picture of what it looked like- enchanting, beautiful like a palace in a fairytale.

Also I thought that the characters especially Arwen were well described. I thought the way he described Arwen made her such a strong character and the way he described her beauty was effective as well and you could also picture her as well. Her movement and her goodwill and her sacrifices were really effective too.

I agree with your point Eledhwen, you would have to watch it a good few times and read it to fully understand it all.
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« #24 : April 04, 2004, 11:35:14 PM »

oh...I know...and those who say otherwise...just really piss me off...anyone who says that Samwise and Frodo had a alternate relationship should be slapped...

Yep! That REALLY annoys me, FFS half the people who say that haven't even read the book anyway so they have no clue! The only relationships with Sam and Frodo are friendship and loyalty, and you really see that in ROTK but you also see it a lot in FOTR.

The thing I love most about this book is how the suspense grows slowly, like at the beginning it is all peaceful, tranquil, calm etc and there's nothing to fear but then it grows everytime they meet the wraiths and they realise how much danger they are actually in.

Like I said before, I hated the Council of Elrond chapter before and didn't understand it one bit, but now I have read it a few times I can understand that it's there to show the background to other characters and that it's really important because we learn more about the Ring.
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« #25 : April 05, 2004, 12:17:33 AM »

I don't like it when people say that Frodo and Sam were gay. Actually I think someone in my class said about it before and they said that LOTR was sad. It just goes to show how people can be so judgmental.

I think the reason Sam and Frodo were such close friends was because they were brought up in the same area I guess and as Ellie said, the only relationships between Sam and Frodo are friendship, loyalty and in my opinion trust as well.
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« #26 : April 05, 2004, 09:38:03 AM »

'...but either in his dreams or out of them, he could not tell which, Frodo heard a sweet singing running in his mind: a song that seemed to come like a pale light behind a grey rain-curtain, and growing stronger to turn the veil all to glass and silver, until at last it was rolled back, and a far country opened before him under a swift sunrise'

is this a vision of Valinor that Frodo was having...maybe a premention of his journey across the seas...

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« #27 : April 05, 2004, 02:49:19 PM »

I've never thoughtof it like that before but I think you are right elbereth.

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« #28 : April 06, 2004, 07:10:47 AM »

there was another place too...during the stay with Tom B. do you think that just staying in the same house or possibly just being around Tom...may have awakened certain psychic abilities in Frodo...after all the elves could do things..not that he had any elf genes or anything like that...but there were times that he just seemed different somehow...but then maybe it comes from that fact that I believe that Eru chose him to carry the ring and along with that came this ability...

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« #29 : April 06, 2004, 03:09:30 PM »

It's certanly possible. I had the distinct impression later on that a higher power was most definitely looking out for Frodo.

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