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« : November 24, 2005, 06:03:40 PM »
Not sure it is the right place to ask it here, but since you've mentioned this, taurё is a forest and -ndil means 'friend' or ' lover'. As far as I understand,  diaeresis is used to spell 'e' clearly. So there's no need in it in 'taurendil' since -ndil makes to spell 'e'? Have I got you right?
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« #1 : November 26, 2005, 03:22:19 AM »
Well, the diaeresis (sorry EG for digressing) isn't needed at all, really. It is just a mark to show to English speakers that the e sound they would usually ignore, is pronounced. So the word "taurё" has some on the e to indicate to pronounce it (as in English the temptation is to ignore it), but when it is in the middle of a word "Taurendil" it would be pronounced anyway so they are completely redundant.

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« #2 : November 26, 2005, 04:57:36 PM »
 You are correct.

 And may I add it isn't mean to be pronounced Taoo-rE (E as in english but as in Pet)

 Happens with my surname all the time, perhaps I should put a diaeresis on the last 'e' before the 's'  ::)
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« #3 : November 27, 2005, 03:51:19 AM »
Thank you for correcting. The same thing happens in case of lomё - lomelinde.
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« #4 : November 27, 2005, 04:27:25 AM »
so not talking diaeresis at all... how would you say Tonpur ???  (not knowing if there are diaeresis in the word)
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« #5 : November 27, 2005, 08:12:50 AM »
 Ton try to say it as tonne, and pur as poor.  So Tonne-poor.
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« #6 : November 27, 2005, 03:35:16 PM »
hmm... thanks Nil :D
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« #7 : November 28, 2005, 12:30:45 AM »
Shouldn't 'pur' sound shortly, not like 'poor'
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« #8 : November 28, 2005, 12:41:00 AM »
 For english speakers the extended "oo" sound helps roll the "R" which is not a common phonem in english and is needed in these languages.

 So if you can pronounce your "r" rolled already shorten the "oo" as the extended phonem is written as "ó"

 
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« #9 : November 28, 2005, 01:39:36 AM »
thats wierd isnt it... I naturally rolled that r  hmmm..... its the "ton" that got me :-\
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« #10 : November 29, 2005, 01:18:21 AM »
Actually, in all languages of ME 'r' is always spelled clearly. So in movies words with 'r', such as MoRdoR, BoromiR, are very often not pronunced or rolled.
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« #11 : November 29, 2005, 02:55:28 AM »
 Maybe the snow has got to my braisn today, but I don't think I get what you are saying.

 Are you saying that even tho it's obviously stated that the 'r' is rolled in the films they hardly make the effort?

 
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« #12 : December 01, 2005, 05:23:48 PM »
I've made a mistake...
I meant that in films actors usually didn't pronunce 'r' correctly, or ignored it as in English.
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