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« #60 : September 07, 2004, 02:34:49 AM »

I heard that too! God, they must be raking in tons of cash from this cinema-before-dvd scam. If it does, I'll probably see it twice before the DVD. What I'm irritated about is that the Mouth of Sauron is killed by Aragorn when they get the mithril coat etc. Not only is this a disgrace to Tolkien's book (as was Osgiliath and Frodo bit), but there is no way that the Mouth of Sauron could be killed by Aragorn! >:(

Aragorn could only just take on the witch-king, and would still lose if one-on-one with him, both armed only with swords. And the witch-king was just a numenorean king - TMOS was descended the last king of Gondor - completely pure-blood and stronger (a less-watered down version of Aragorn). Not only this, but he is armed with the four dwarf-rings that Sauron had. And in the book it said that he was going to be the leader of Sauron's armies - replacing the witch-king as the best boss. Aragorn couldn't beat him!!!



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« #61 : September 07, 2004, 04:54:33 AM »

he most probably doesnt die!



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« #62 : September 08, 2004, 06:28:27 PM »

did anyone think that the *mouth* part of mouth of sauron was more....erm........metaphorical

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« #63 : September 08, 2004, 07:32:16 PM »

hooray,been wondering who kills gothmog the pink orc/pig combo with attitude....and now we know

Yeah, i thought that he got crushed from the charging Rohirrim, but at least we know what really happens to him now.  ;)


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« #64 : September 08, 2004, 10:15:22 PM »

Does the orc with a skull on his head have a name? And how do Legolas, Gimli and Aragorn get their horses back if they fled from the Paths of the Dead?

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« #65 : September 08, 2004, 11:52:13 PM »

In the book they blindfold the horses and walk them through so that they can move fast once through the mountain.

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« #66 : September 09, 2004, 12:53:35 AM »

did anyone think that the *mouth* part of mouth of sauron was more....erm........metaphorical


Yes, I did, I really didn't think it meant that he necessarily he had a set of nasty, sharp, very large teeth. ::)
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« #67 : September 09, 2004, 02:07:58 AM »

Does the orc with a skull on his head have a name? And how do Legolas, Gimli and Aragorn get their horses back if they fled from the Paths of the Dead?

in the film, how do you know they did ???  did they get the same horses back ???



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« #68 : September 11, 2004, 03:54:06 PM »

Don't know.  I just want to know what old skull orc is called before Aragorn makes mince meat of him.

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« #69 : September 11, 2004, 04:41:58 PM »

according to this site

he's called ... wait for it.... Skully ! ::)

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While Gothmog is the only Orc identified in the film, here are the names of those un-named ones who appeared in it: a) Skully: he is Gothmog's lieutenant (the one wearing a skull on his headpiece); b) Gorbag: the large Orc in Cirith Ungol that holds Frodo's mithril shirt; c) Shagrat: the shorter Orc in Cirith Ungol that fought against Gorbag for the mithril shirt; d) Snaga: the Orc from Cirith Ungol who tried to kill Frodo.

I actually dont think he had a name... I listened to a talk by Gina of Weta Workshop at the Fellowship Festival and they did talk about him and why his head gear was different... something PJ wanted was for him to wear skulls on his head!  PJ is a big fan of the old movies.... Gothmog was deliberately modelled on the elephant man!  but they never mentioned that he had a name, whereas they did mention other orcs who had names :-\



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« #70 : September 11, 2004, 05:17:25 PM »

Thank you!

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« #71 : September 12, 2004, 03:45:25 AM »

rollon december / november wnenever it is eventually  gonna be. makes more sense with the added scenes and i NEED to see them. wow 3 lotr xmas's then .... nothing! i think im gonna cry :(

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« #72 : September 13, 2004, 04:15:21 AM »

TORN staff at DragonCon got to see a preview of the Extended Edition! ::)

if you want to know what's in it, hilight this :

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Dragon*Con 2004: TORn Staff Previews ROTK Extended Edition
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Celebriel reports that one must-attend session for Ringers at Dragon*Con 2004 was The Road Goes Ever Onward, a preview of The Return of the King Extended Edition presented by staffers Balin, Jincey, and Mr. Cere on Saturday and Monday.

SPOILER ALERT: This article contains spoilers related to the content in the 50 minutes of footage added to the theatrical version. If you want to be surprised when you insert that first disc into your DVD player, READ NO FURTHER!

Additional scenes expected to appear in the Extended Edition are:

1. The long-awaited confrontation with Saruman at Orthanc which was cut from the theatrical edition. At the end of this confrontation, Saruman is killed by Gryma, who pushes him, causing him to fall and impale himself on a spiky wheel. (An image of Saruman impaled has been floating around for a few years). This scene is an homage to Christopher Lee, who has appeared in numerous Dracula and other horror films in his long career, dating back to 1948.

2. Gryma’s death. Legolas shoots Gryma at Orthanc.

3. Merry swearing allegiance to King Theoden. Merry’s role is expanded in several scenes in the Extended Edition.

4. A scene between Aragorn and Eowyn, in her bedroom at Edoras. Many people seeing this image on the Internet believed it was set in the Houses of Healing

5. A drinking game at Edoras involving Legolas and Gimli.

6. A conversation between Eomer and Eowyn that gives us insight into their relationship.

7. Aragorn explains Pippin’s flight.

8. A cbonversation etween Elrond and Arwen , again giving us insight into their relationship.

9. Footage of Aragorn with the palantir.

10. Much more footage from the journey through the Paths of the Dead. In one spectacular scene, skulls rain down on Aragorn. Aragorn leaves the Kingdom of the Dead without an answer to his question, “What say you?”

11. Legolas consoles Aragorn after they leave the Paths of the Dead, placing his hand on Aragorn’s shoulder. (This image has also been floating around for a few years, and has been the subject of caption contests.)

12. There is much more background on the black ships of the Corsairs. The Army of the Dead arrive and conquer the Corsairs. Look closely and you will see a lot of cast and WETA production crew members in these fight scenes. (Remember that Peter Jackson’s cameo in the theatrical version was as a Corsair.)

13. Expanded conversation between Gandalf and Pippin in Minas Tirith, including Gandalf’s explanation of significance of The White Tree.

14. A conversation between Pippin and Faramir.

15. Expanded treatment of the Siege of Gondor (could this get any bigger?) including more battering rams, more Orcish machinery, and more about the defense and taking of the White City. More decapitated heads are launched from catapults. Oliphants charge into the walls of Minas Tirith.

16. The long-awaited encounter between Gandalf and the Witch King. The Witch King’s sword bursts into flame. Gandalf’s staff is broken. Gandalf is shown rescuing Faramir.

17. Eomer finds Theoden dead on the battlefield, then finds the wounded Eowyn. He is overcome with grief.

18. Pippin finds Merry on the battlefield at night, after a day-long search. A much longer scene than in the theatrical edition.

19. Gorbag is shown taking Frodo’s possessions from him.

20. In the Houses of Healing, Eomer and Aragorn talk.

21. Aragorn is shown walking in the throne room in Minas Tirith.

22. More footage of Frodo and Sam in Mordor, including their marching with orcs and Sam discarding his pots and pans.

23. The long-waited Mouth of Sauron comes out of the Gates of Mordor to confront Aragorn and his forces, displaying the items taken from Frodo. The Mouth character is blind, just a mouth. (This presence of this scene helps explain Aragorn’s battle cry, “For Frodo!”)

24. Merry and Pippin despair on the battlefield after seeing Frodo’s clothes and mithril vest.

Overall, as TORn staffers pointed out, the additional scenes bring the film even closer to the book. Many deal with character development, or help explain or set up actions taken by characters, although both the Siege of Gondor and the battle with the Corsairs get more action scenes.

Other rumors:

TORn staffers also reported that the ROTK Extended Edition may, repeat MAY, play theatrically during or close to Thanksgiving weekend. Also, that there is a possibility of another set of DVDs with additional footage in 2006 or 2007, but the films themselves will not be recut. The possibilities are endless, given that about 12 MILLION feet of documentary footage was shot.
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« #73 : September 13, 2004, 04:20:04 AM »

cool.  looks promising ;D

iv been looking forward to this for ages.  thanks for the spoilers EG ;)


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« #74 : September 13, 2004, 04:21:42 AM »

annoying tho aint it! that the Americans always get to see these previews... thats TWO now theyve seen! and we dont get anything!  the Fellowship Festival would have been an ideal time to show us! grrr  >:(



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