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« #30 : January 20, 2004, 01:44:07 AM »

I know what you mean the transition is so subtle yet you can't help but suddenly notise it! :)

LOL Thorin was hilarious in it. ;) As was Bilbo... and the trolls well they're just great! Haha I love them how they argue with themselves until dawn... hehe

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« #31 : January 20, 2004, 02:00:28 AM »

Gandalf is confusing. "Where were you?" exclaimed Thorin. "Looking ahead."
"And what brought you back in the nick of time?" he asked. "Looking behind."

lol I like the way the wallet actually turns around and asks who it is!!  :P
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« #32 : January 20, 2004, 02:04:01 AM »

Just reading The Hobbit again now, after God knows how many years!  It strikes me how very simplistic it is compared to the LotR books. (yes I do realise it was written for children! :P) I wonder if J.R.R. realised just how far it would all go when he first wrote it?









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« #33 : January 20, 2004, 02:18:47 AM »

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lol Join in the discussion Aug! Chapter by Chapter?
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« #34 : January 20, 2004, 02:54:11 AM »

I love the bit about the trolls, don't you think it is such a fairytale story that part about how they are arguing about how they are going to cook them, and the sun comes up and turns them all to stone, it's such a children's story! (well obviously, i mean the hobbit was written for children) But i just love that bit! :)

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« #35 : January 20, 2004, 09:13:08 AM »

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Wow .. my second-favouritest chapter!  

I love how after having been exposed to all those strange names.. Bilbo... Gloin... Bombur...   all of a sudden you come upon Bert, William and Tom!

My Mister says they're Yorkshiremen.. er.. Yorkshiretrolls.. hehe...but I liked the absurdity of three Trolls with English names sitting in the middle of the woods round a fire discussing the best way to serve Hobbit.
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« #36 : January 20, 2004, 01:08:27 PM »

actually, if you remember they were discussing how to cook dwarf, Bilbo was in the bushes after being tossed there by one of the trolls because he was hurt.
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« #37 : January 21, 2004, 02:44:03 AM »

Should we roast 'em? Nah, Boil 'em. No. Let just sit on them and turn 'em to jelly. Yup!   lol I chuckled when I read that. GG was just using that as an example Thawyn. No need to be sarky...lol  :P
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« #38 : January 21, 2004, 03:50:36 AM »

Sorry, just trying to make a reputation of being know it all.(jk) lol ;D

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« #39 : January 21, 2004, 08:08:11 AM »

I always liked how Tolkien threw in familiar thing amoung fantasy things, such as days of the week, and those Trolls' names, and the whole idea of a fanastical type creature like a short wooley-toed hobbit having the same habits and inclinations as a common Englishman of Tolkien's own time.

I think he really meant to make fantasy seem believable by placing a familiar believable world within a fantasy story.

What I liked so much about FoTR later on is how the Huggins Brothers make a return-appearance in their stone form as the four hobbits and Aragorn make their way to Rivendell.  He seemed to be trying to rekindle a touch of the lighter mood set in The Hobbit in his more epic trilogy.
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« #40 : January 21, 2004, 08:12:12 AM »

Yes he did try to make it believable because he really meant for the Hobbit and the LOTR to be England's Mythology, like the greeks have theirs, but oh this really make no sense what I've just said. sorry, you're right.

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« #41 : January 23, 2004, 02:56:14 AM »

Yup. GG's always right. Only cos she's a mod!!! lol I like the way the trolls are within the bounderies of reality yet still fantastical. Really kewlies.
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« #42 : January 23, 2004, 11:43:45 AM »

Moving right along... regarding Thorin and Company's peril with the trolls and later again with the Goblin King and with the spiders of MIrkwood, why do you suppose it is that in such situations where it might have been handy, Gandalf uses his apparently-great magical ability so sparingly, or in certain cases, is not even present, though he should know that his special abilities could mean the difference between life and death for the others?

I mean.... his ability seems to vary throughout Hobbit and LoTR, so does anybody have thoughts on why this is?
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« #43 : January 23, 2004, 12:30:06 PM »

Maybe so that, in his absence, those facing the situation would look deep within themselves to find the ability to overcome whatever they are facing when normally, all they would to is turn to Grandpa Gandalf.

I mean, if Bilbo wasn't forced into the situations he ended up in, he would have never taken the initiative to get the Dwarves or himself out of trouble.

I could be wrong.  (I haven't even finished The Hobbit yet, so I probably shouldn't even reply).
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« #44 : January 24, 2004, 12:32:57 AM »

An excellent point. No-way would Bilbo have thought of that idea in Mirkwood, wont spoil it, If Beorn or Gandalf had been there. And I was slightly disappointed that gandalf seemed to use magic like there was no tomorrow, and other times...nothing? Mind you, it would have made the "Adventure" a bit pointles wouldnt it?
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