Are you worried by Global warming?

[Dan]

Ohh ok then i thought you ment other things when you said "petty arguments"
when i said i strongly disagree i ment that if all that has happened over the last couple of years, and all of the lives that have been lost is just over a "petty argument" then with that i dissagree. 

Still dont think that made sence but o well its sounds good in my head.


Bhaal 

[malkcontent]

It is well-known fact that the temperature on our planet constantly grows. According to many predictions if this process doesn't stop many cities and territories will be under water in next 25-50 years due to the melting of ice in Antarctica and Greenland. Moreover,  the consequences of warming is a mass starving in Asia and other countries contiguous to equator. Many green areas and forests will turn into deserts.
Do you know any efficient measures that are being adopted in order to prevent all this?   

Actually this well known fact is something of an urban legend.  The global climate changes naturally over the course of history and this mimics an established pattern of many hundreds of years.
The actual net cost of global warming is something in the region of 1 degree over the course of the next 150 years which is likely to be easily counterable by the scientists working on this problem over the course of that time.

[Rwar]

In my opinion, I think I'm quite worried about global warming. I mean, in the project we've just done for our exam piece at College, we focused on this festival called "The Big Green Gathering" & it made me think about how much crap we're putting into our planet.

There's this advert on TV, I don't know what it's for, but the narrator says "If we could see what we the gases we are actually putting into our atmosphere, we would do something about it." I totaly agree, if we saw the fumes and what-not that we're polluting this world of ours with, it would kick us into gear into actually doing something about it NOW, don't you think?

[Vårn]

h'mm, most recent thing i read about this, and it was pretty convincingly done, lots of people with letters and poo poo after their names stated that yes, the climate of the planet does change, all the time, goes through hot spells and warm spells, but, not this fast. it's the speed with which the planet is heating up which is causing worry. and if indeed it's heating up faster because of whatever we're doing/not doing then there is perhaps the risk that it'll also heat up more, which could be a worry.

what worries me more is the administration in the white house deliberately hiding and manipulating the facts about global warming, or, certainly appearing to, from it's populace in order to justify it's choice to prioritise the economy over ecology. but hey, it's not my country...it just happens to have a disproportionatly large influence over my particular country...poo poo man, come to think of it, people i didn't elect have a huge say over what happens to me...well, i guess some things really never do change...

[Rwar]

That's very true.. I mean, the USA could change the amount of nuclear plants they have, the choice to act now and at least try and make a difference. I think that George Bush & his administration are just too deluded in what they're doing, they'll end up ruining the planet. Along with the countries they try and help out. Or perhaps I'm wrong, they know what's really going on with this planet and just decide to smooth everything over and keep it quiet from their citizens?

The world is changing, whether we like it or not, what we've put into the planet, I mean, I've seen the amount of fuel rubbish going into the sky, making the hole in the atmosphere bigger, I live by the sea and daily I see the gases from the funnels of ferries polluting the air, thick, disgusting black smoke going up into the air and quite alot of people I know think it'll just go away or we can sort it out in a few years time and it'll be fine.

But it's not, if we don't act now and sort it out, then we'll probably end up in some climate that'll last for year's, maybe centuries, do we really want to get to the point where it's unchangeable?
Where we live in a constant heat wave or the oposite?

[Jim]

I love how the Bush govt still denies global warming despite Hurricane katrina and the coming of a predictably strong hurricane season, and even the consensus of scientists regardless of the political spectrum. Basically saying, the american neo conservative government would rather make profit from human deaths and the destruction of our earth before giving in and making legislation to help the problem.

[Jim]

It is well-known fact that the temperature on our planet constantly grows. According to many predictions if this process doesn't stop many cities and territories will be under water in next 25-50 years due to the melting of ice in Antarctica and Greenland. Moreover,  the consequences of warming is a mass starving in Asia and other countries contiguous to equator. Many green areas and forests will turn into deserts.
Do you know any efficient measures that are being adopted in order to prevent all this?   

Actually this well known fact is something of an urban legend.  The global climate changes naturally over the course of history and this mimics an established pattern of many hundreds of years.
The actual net cost of global warming is something in the region of 1 degree over the course of the next 150 years which is likely to be easily counterable by the scientists working on this problem over the course of that time.

Its also a well known fact that global climate change happens over hundreds of years; as if the ice age ended within 100 years, aye f*ck. There is no excuse for what is happening to the planet and the facts prove it. Global warming at this current rate will make our planet unlivible within the next 50~100 years in most areas, with the highlands of the landmass being the only useable areas.

we cannot predict the work of scientists over the course of the future 100 years and must combat global warming now, not tomorow.

[Vårn]

careful controlling of information in order to harbour in your populace a world view which will cause them to go along with you in all that you say, up to and including waging war on a large portion of the known world?

you know, if history wasn't written by the winners, i'd love to see a comparative essay between the 2nd bush administration and the rise of the nazi party. from, say, 50 years into the future...

[Rwar]

The Bush adminstration, since Bush senior, have controlled what they tell their citizens. It's a known fact. What is hidden/kept and what is decided to be let out to the public. It's like the American people have a cotton wool coating around them, the goverment deciding what they tell their countrymen and what they don't.

I'm sure they're eager to know what their goverment are keeping from them, but will they ever find out? Like for example, a good, solid reason for going to war?

Back on topic, the USA of all countries, the superpower of the world, should make an effort on the worrying effect we're making and have made on our planet! because one day the chance to make a change, will not be available!

[Vårn]

sometimes best not to bring well known, yet undocumentable, facts into rational debate. if you can't source it, it might as well not have happened. certainly it avoids the unpleasant moment when someone asks for proof

[Rwar]

True true... Shall take note for further posting

[malkcontent]

Wouldn't worry about it anyway , if it gets too hot then just wear a t shirt.

[Rowiel the Elven Maiden]

roast that all 

[Jim]

sometimes best not to bring well known, yet undocumentable, facts into rational debate. if you can't source it, it might as well not have happened. certainly it avoids the unpleasant moment when someone asks for proof

Aye, but the proof in this case is the rapid change to our planet to be honest. Its no secret our planet is changing faster than it should be, and its at our hands.

[Vårn]

the point made regarded the bush administrations systematic alteration of facts and events in order to make it's policies more justifiable and itself more electable. as for global warming itself, yes, that CAN be documented easily enough.

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