Are you worried by Global warming?

[Taurendil]

It is well-known fact that the temperature on our planet constantly grows. According to many predictions if this process doesn't stop many cities and territories will be under water in next 25-50 years due to the melting of ice in Antarctica and Greenland. Moreover,  the consequences of warming is a mass starving in Asia and other countries contiguous to equator. Many green areas and forests will turn into deserts.
Do you know any efficient measures that are being adopted in order to prevent all this?   

[In AmericEar]

I don't believe there is such a thing as global warming. We had an ICe Age didn't we? Is it not possible to have a heat age all the same?

I mean if you look at it in that sense then there really is no evidence to back up the fact that there is such a thing! It may just be another age like we had an Ice Age, and will eventually end. Or are scientists now telling us that it isn't possible. That we are only allowed to have an ice Age, and that was a one off anyway and will never happen again!?

[Taurendil]

Even if it is so, and I seriously doubt it, we endager ourselves, taking risks. What if it is not so? The problem is that this process isn't convertible, I mean, once begun the melting wouldn't stop whatever we do then. Besides, you can't deny that industrial development doesn't affect nature and the climate.

[In AmericEar]

I am not denying that but what I am saying is there has been nothing to tell me that this isn't just another age. What evidence is there to say that this isn't just another age? Aswell as what evidence is there to say that it is.

Why do you seriously doubt it? I mean, there isn't any evidence saying either way. There isn't anything to rule out a Heat Age. If it is another age then there is nothing we can do, but it will end.

[Taurendil]

Well, anyway if we do nothing we risk to end up living in a sandy waterless desert, without any sources of food. This 'Heat Age' will end and we as well.

Here's an indirect proof: If industry and pollution indeed affects climat then it naturally changes; in fact this is what we see today. Only several degrees is enough to destroy everything. I don't agree there's nothing we can do, we can for instance not to aggravate the things. Actually there are some powerful methods of controlling the situation
 

[In AmericEar]

I think that yes, things are not made any better by the fact we ARE polluting the Earth and we can help that. That is something that, if it were simply a Heat Age, wouldn't help, and we can do as much as possible to stop that. If it is another Age, we can't do anything about the fact it is a Heat Age.

During the Ice Age, millions of animals survived, including the human race, and we are much more technologically able than we were then. If they survived then, we can survive now.

Both of these things do not change the fact that:

• There has been nothing to prove that this is a Heat Age.
• There has been nothing to prove that this isn't a Heat Age.
• There is also no proof to tell us that there is such a thing as Global Warming, and that it is just some conspiricy.

My mum read a book by someone who reckons that there isn't such a thing as Global Warming, I'll ask her what it is...

[Taurendil]

I think that yes, things are not made any better by the fact we ARE polluting the Earth and we can help that. That is something that, if it were simply a Heat Age, wouldn't help, and we can do as much as possible to stop that. If it is another Age, we can't do anything about the fact it is a Heat Age.

During the Ice Age, millions of animals survived, including the human race, and we are much more technologically able than we were then. If they survived then, we can survive now.

First I think we can do something to prevent a Heat Age. For instance to shade the Earth by letting out in the sky certain micro particles. In fact there are 2 processes going on: Global Warming(I still think it's happenning, whatever we call it, a heat age or a warming) and Global Shading. Moreover these processes are counteracting each other. Global Shading is caused by particles that are issued in the air by fabrics (in fact these particles is nothing other but ash) it prevents overheating the planet by the Sun. So if we stop polluting the air then it'll cause overheating(which is happened in Europe exactly due to the reduction of air pollution). That's what must be taken in to consideration.

Yes, many survived the Ice Age(and a great deal more people and animals not), but nowadays it'll cost us our current well-being, development and achievements.

[Isodia]

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[Blaen]

I doubt that. If anything global warming will probably cause a new ice age. If the ice caps melt than the amount fresh and salt water will get screwed up, the gulf stream will probably shut down and the UK will end up as cold as Siberia....Ah well, I always liked snow.

[Taurendil]

I doubt that. If anything global warming will probably cause a new ice age. If the ice caps melt than the amount fresh and salt water will get screwed up, the gulf stream will probably shut down and the UK will end up as cold as Siberia....Ah well, I always liked snow.

I've heard of this theory too. But it'll cause not only cold climate in Europe, but even hotter one in Africa, South Asia.

I've also heard the arguement that we're still in an ice age. Its definition is: "A cold period marked by episodes of extensive glaciation alternating with episodes of relative warmth." This is why some people believe the ice caps are melting, simply because we're finally coming to the end of the ice age.

To be honest, there are so many different theories I'm not sure what to believe. Whatever's happening, I think we're contributing to it and something major needs to be done.

I agree, people should undoubtedly do something to prevent unfavourable changes, whatever is happening.

[Blaen]

Very true. Africa is already suffering terribly from Global Warming. Just look at the size of Lake Chad. It's decreased in volume by something like 50%, and the worst thing is the lake supplies practically all the water to about 4 countries. I shudder to thinkl what africa will be like in a 100 years if we don't stop pumping co2 into the air at the current rate.

[Taurendil]

The thing is there's another theory. By letting CO2 and other burned gasses out in the air (especially particles of ash) we stop the Sun to overheat our planet. According to this theory the cause of hot summers in Europe was the reduction of emissions.
So it's very difficult to decide what to do for there are a lot of things to be taken into account, and in the meantime there's not much time left.

[Icy]

Whatever happens, I don't care.  Humans ruined this planet beyond compare.  Quite frankly, we deserve to be wiped out.  Maybe when we're gone, the planet will regain its beauty and the animals can have a nice home.

Because our Earth, the thing that gives us life, is basically a landfill site now.  Its covered in derelict buildings, rubbish tips, war-torn countries.

Humans are so wrapped up in fighting with each other, in petty arguments, and our own domination...we forget5 about the most important thing for every one of us - Earth. 

The day we stop polluting will be the day we're actually worth something.

[Dan]

The thing i was taught was that the cause of global warming in the pollution of fossil fuels in-fa red rays and some other stuff (i cant remember what it was a couple of years back) all of the above are causing the polar ice caps to melt which do indeed add to the water levels, and when water levels rise the land mass decreases.
Which does indeed mean that places on the coast will be greatly affected by this change.
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Also apparently the government "are trying to stop this" where as i see what has been done can not be reversed yes OK you can change to environmental friendly products but the damage that has been done can not be reversed.

Because our Earth, the thing that gives us life, is basically a landfill site now.  Its covered in derelict buildings, rubbish tips, war-torn countries.

Humans are so wrapped up in fighting with each other, in petty arguments, and our own domination...we forget5 about the most important thing for every one of us - Earth. 

The day we stop polluting will be the day we're actually worth something.

Yes indeed the day we stop polluting we MIGHT be worth something, but i think the day where we stop polluting will never come or if it does it wont be for some time now.
Not everything is about pettey arguments just look at the events that have taken place over the last couple of years.
If all that is "petty arguments" then i strongly disagree



Bhaal 

[Icy]

Disagree about what?  You'll have to be specific

When I say petty arguments I meant between individuals.  You know, friends and family arguing.

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