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« #15 : May 22, 2006, 10:53:03 PM »

Elves begun departing from Middle-earth at the end of the 1st age. In fact very few of Beleriand who survived remained in Middle-earth.
I only want to say that it is not the rising of Sauron that made them leave. It was a continuous process.

  I for one certainly have no interest in that kind of exchange where one person's argument is to be consider more valid than the rest for no better reason than being present in the discussion more persistently.

Why not? If this or that argument turns out to be more convincing and persistent and approved by more people I think it is likely that it is closer to truth or 'more valid'; if I understood you rightly ;)

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« #16 : May 22, 2006, 11:11:37 PM »

 That can be construed as delusion Taurendil, because nobody argues with us it doesn't mean we are right under any conventions. ;)

 Majorities and persistency do not make a truth at any rate, take for example any religion, any number of people believing in something still doesn't make it an absolute truth to everyone or even more valid, does it? ;D
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« #17 : May 22, 2006, 11:39:30 PM »

Yes, perhaps I understood you wrong. Arguement is a necessary component in reaching truth in a discussion.

But let's not stray this topic from the point ::)

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« #18 : May 23, 2006, 12:04:23 AM »

 It hasn't strayed, one has to define how to debate before going around doing it.

 All we can do anyway is to put forth our arguments as to why we think they are or they aren't, and trust me flaws are not a sole trait of humans of course we would have to ask a proper elf to see if we are right or wrong  ;D so all we can do is speculate and that means either you, me or anyone else can be wrong  ;)
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« #19 : May 23, 2006, 12:08:04 AM »

All we can do anyway is to put forth our arguments as to why we think they are or they aren't, and trust me flaws are not a sole trait of humans of course we would have to ask a proper elf to see if we are right or wrong  ;D so all we can do is speculate and that means either you, me or anyone else can be wrong  ;)

Well, I agree with that :)

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