Political Correctness Gone Overboard!!!

[Jim]

Telling people to shut up is not standing up for what you believe in, it's being a bellend 

I don't go by the mentality of "if they disagree with me the are wrong", thats cac, but I do argue back and it's something they don't seem to like. Honestly like, if it was as simple as me thinking they are wrong, I'd be posting one liners in reply to arguements about the actual topic, for example "you think political correctness is going overboard and you are just wrong", then leaving.

[Beleriel]

The true meaning of a debate is to discuss your opinions with an open mind.  The problem is when people dont have an open mind and only want to try to convince others that they are right no matter what. 

I always think the best debate is the one that does get me thinking and does make me change my opinion through logical and valid points. 

[In AmericEar]

Telling people to shut up is not standing up for what you believe in, it's being a bellend 

I don't go by the mentality of "if they disagree with me the are wrong", thats cac, but I do argue back and it's something they don't seem to like. Honestly like, if it was as simple as me thinking they are wrong, I'd be posting one liners in reply to arguements about the actual topic, for example "you think political correctness is going overboard and you are just wrong", then leaving.

Maybe but you don't listen to anyone else, you've posted you're view, they don't agree, well it can't be anything I've said lets just stick to that. If you hadn't done the same thing in a million of other topics we would have listened but...

[Beleriel]

Hold on a bit.... whats that about please?  What are you telling me I have done?  I always listen to what others have to say and take anything said with an open mind.  I might not agree sometimes so then I just back off and agree to disagree so to speak. 

So, what are you saying?  Can you clarify it for me? 

[In AmericEar]

  ... huh? .... ooh right, no not you Beleriel I mean Jim, not criticizing you in anyway!! Sorry I meant to have a quote of Jim there sorry

[Jim]

Telling people to shut up is not standing up for what you believe in, it's being a bellend 

I don't go by the mentality of "if they disagree with me the are wrong", thats cac, but I do argue back and it's something they don't seem to like. Honestly like, if it was as simple as me thinking they are wrong, I'd be posting one liners in reply to arguements about the actual topic, for example "you think political correctness is going overboard and you are just wrong", then leaving.

Maybe but you don't listen to anyone else, you've posted you're view, they don't agree, well it can't be anything I've said lets just stick to that. If you hadn't done the same thing in a million of other topics we would have listened but...

How don't I listen to anyone else?

[In AmericEar]

(one liner )

Listen as in pay attention to what arguement they are trying to put across.... which is sounding more and more familiar

[Jim]

(A one liner for an arguement that isn't exactly on topic )

Obviously I pay attention to the arguement they are putting across, weither or not they pay attention to my arguement is another story all toghether, they'd rather tell me to shut up. But yeh, if you say so. But right, aren't we both going a bit far with this in this topic? Kind of defeats the purpose in posting here to have a pissing match.

[In AmericEar]

  oh my god! I give up, you are impossible to get through

And Political Correctness has gone overboard in my opinion. I think alot of actors and actresses and people have become to politically correct aswell saying things like 'Oh she's brill' 'He's great!' 'She's so fun!' Not everybody likes everybody, there has to be someone they hate!!

[Taurendil]

Sometimes its difficult to have freedom of speech and be politically corect at the same time though.

What do you think about that newspaper scandal? Had the author right to publish an image of the muslim's God?

[In AmericEar]

Yeah, I see what you mean with all the pressure they have.... but I mean its so fake!!!


And, I think the author was kinda stupid and he didn't have the right to publish that cartoon, but I also think some (not all) of teh muslims are over reacting because cartoons insult every single god every single day... but the rest of us don't burn down some buildings, I do though respect some of the protesters who just organised a walk through the streets with banners not threatening deaths. I think that was a better way to go about it.

but thats only my opinion

And what do I know? I'm only 13...

[Taurendil]

I thought you were older!

I agree with you about the cartoon. The muslims seem just not to understand and esteem the freedom of speech though.

[Jim]

oh my god! I give up, you are impossible to get through

And Political Correctness has gone overboard in my opinion. I think alot of actors and actresses and people have become to politically correct aswell saying things like 'Oh she's brill' 'He's great!' 'She's so fun!' Not everybody likes everybody, there has to be someone they hate!!

Lmao, right, both of us are stubborn as flibble, end of it aye?

It's not so much pressure that actors and actresses have to be politically correct to please people, most would rather not have the piss taken out of them completely by magazines, tv shows and etc, but it does play a part.

As for the muslim caricatures, they have a right to be annoyed, but the extent they are taking it too is too far, even for muslims. My own ma's a muslim and she doesn't take it as serious as most muslims are (infact she doesn't care). But in the middle east, there isn't a "freedom of speech" (it's also debatable if we truely have it in the west), and it's a black and white picture. Middle eastern countries are not culturally mixed, infact most asian countries aren't. Britain (and other european countries) has a huge cultural mixture because of it's previous empire, and for that reason it's going to be far easier to offend people.

Understand that Muslims are very protective of their culture and religion, people in the west for the most part aren't, and most Christians prefere to pray to god when they want something. It's sad but mostly true.

There have been some absolute lady bits protestors (for example the fella who dressed as a suicide bomber) who generally need a slap in the head, but they are very genuine about this. The Danish newspaper claimed to be testing free press - thats a farse, they wanted to see how far they could go in offending people.

[Hyllyn]

 Correct this then 

CALVIN AND HOBBES — AND MUHAMMAD


As my regular readers know, I've long been skeptical of the "Religion of Peace" moniker for Muslims — for at least 3,000 reasons right off the top of my head. I think the evidence is going my way this week.

The culture editor of a newspaper in Denmark suspected writers and cartoonists were engaging in self-censorship when it came to the Religion of Peace. It was subtle things, like a Danish comedian's statement, paraphrased by The New York Times, "that he had no problem urinating on the Bible but that he would not dare do the same to the Quran."

So, after verifying that his life insurance premiums were paid up, the editor expressly requested cartoons of Muhammad from every cartoonist with a Danish cartoon syndicate. Out of 40 cartoonists, only 10 accepted the invitation, most of them submitting utterly neutral drawings with no political content whatsoever.

But three cartoons made political points.

One showed Muhammad turning away suicide bombers from the gates of heaven, saying "Stop, stop — we ran out of virgins!" — which I believe was a commentary on Muslims' predilection for violence. Another was a cartoon of Muhammad with horns, which I believe was a commentary on Muslims' predilection for violence. The third showed Muhammad with a turban in the shape of a bomb, which I believe was an expression of post-industrial ennui in a secular — oops, no, wait: It was more of a commentary on Muslims' predilection for violence.

In order to express their displeasure with the idea that Muslims are violent, thousands of Muslims around the world engaged in rioting, arson, mob savagery, flag-burning, murder and mayhem, among other peaceful acts of nonviolence.

Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back.

The little darlings brandish placards with typical Religion of Peace slogans, such as: "Behead Those Who Insult Islam," "Europe, you will pay, extermination is on the way" and "Butcher those who mock Islam." They warn Europe of their own impending 9/11 with signs that say: "Europe: Your 9/11 will come" — which is ironic, because they almost had me convinced the Jews were behind the 9/11 attack.

The rioting Muslims claim they are upset because Islam prohibits any depictions of Muhammad — though the text is ambiguous on beheadings, suicide bombings and flying planes into skyscrapers.

The belief that Islam forbids portrayals of Muhammad is recently acquired. Back when Muslims created things, rather than blowing them up, they made paintings, frescoes, miniatures and prints of Muhammad.

But apparently the Quran is like the Constitution: It's a "living document," capable of sprouting all-new provisions at will. Muslims ought to start claiming the Quran also prohibits indoor plumbing, to explain their lack of it.

Other interpretations of the Quran forbid images of humans or animals, which makes even a child's coloring book blasphemous. That's why the Taliban blew up those priceless Buddhist statues, bless their innocent, peace-loving little hearts.

Largely unnoticed in this spectacle is the blinding fact that one nation is missing from the long list of Muslim countries (by which I mean France and England) with hundreds of crazy Muslims experiencing bipolar rage over some cartoons: Iraq. Hey — maybe this democracy thing does work! The barbaric behavior of Europe's Muslims suggests that the European welfare state may not be attracting your top-notch Muslims.

Making the rash assumption for purposes of discussion that Islam is a religion and not a car-burning cult, even a real religion can't go bossing around other people like this.

Catholics aren't short on rules, but they couldn't care less if non-Catholics use birth control. Conservative Jews have no interest in forbidding other people from mixing meat and dairy. Protestants don't make a peep about other people eating food off one another's plates. (Just stay away from our plates — that's disgusting.)

But Muslims think they can issue decrees about what images can appear in newspaper cartoons. Who do they think they are, liberals?

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 Ahh I found another one liner.
 

We know that, and accept that the child will not care. It is the fact that the people who had it changed thought the need urgent enough to have it done!

As you say, the child doesn't care what the character is called, so what was the point of changing it?

Political Correctness my eye.

No, as in it's something so useless that why are you worried that someone felt the need to change it?

[Jim]

Well, if you want, here it goes.

But three cartoons made political points.

One showed Muhammad turning away suicide bombers from the gates of heaven, saying "Stop, stop — we ran out of virgins!" — which I believe was a commentary on Muslims' predilection for violence. Another was a cartoon of Muhammad with horns, which I believe was a commentary on Muslims' predilection for violence. The third showed Muhammad with a turban in the shape of a bomb, which I believe was an expression of post-industrial ennui in a secular — oops, no, wait: It was more of a commentary on Muslims' predilection for violence.

In order to express their displeasure with the idea that Muslims are violent, thousands of Muslims around the world engaged in rioting, arson, mob savagery, flag-burning, murder and mayhem, among other peaceful acts of nonviolence.

And why not? When you have cartoons calling your prophet the devil (something that would even anger christians if it where Jesus) and considering Muslims are very defensive over their religion, I can understand why they got on the way they did. But also the writer of that article should understand that not all muslims are like that, and I know that myself from first hand experience. Unlike his one sided view (obvious by his writing), I've seen both sides of it and taken it into account.

Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back.

No, middle easterns are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back. It's obvious again that this writer isn't fond of muslims, but feminists too, yer he wants to compare them to make one look darker than the other - where did he learn to write?

Muslims treat women well enough that the women feel content with their lives, y'know, as if there is no domestic violence/under representation of women in politics in the west.

The little darlings brandish placards with typical Religion of Peace slogans, such as: "Behead Those Who Insult Islam," "Europe, you will pay, extermination is on the way" and "Butcher those who mock Islam." They warn Europe of their own impending 9/11 with signs that say: "Europe: Your 9/11 will come" — which is ironic, because they almost had me convinced the Jews were behind the 9/11 attack.

My last reply dealt with this part of the issue. The people that DID hold up these signs are no better than the cartoonists and two wrongs dont make a right.

The rioting Muslims claim they are upset because Islam prohibits any depictions of Muhammad — though the text is ambiguous on beheadings, suicide bombings and flying planes into skyscrapers.

No it's not. Suicide bombers are despised by most (if not all) Muslims I know, and the Quran says that a muslim has the right to fight back to an aggressor, nothing to do with beheadings, as far as most muslims I know are concerned, these people are going to hell for taking action wrongly.

Other interpretations of the Quran forbid images of humans or animals, which makes even a child's coloring book blasphemous. That's why the Taliban blew up those priceless Buddhist statues, bless their innocent, peace-loving little hearts.

Again taking things too literally, this writer is brilliant, not only is he in a one track mind - he doesn't even fully understand what he is suppose to be writing about.

Largely unnoticed in this spectacle is the blinding fact that one nation is missing from the long list of Muslim countries (by which I mean France and England) with hundreds of crazy Muslims experiencing bipolar rage over some cartoons: Iraq. Hey — maybe this democracy thing does work! The barbaric behavior of Europe's Muslims suggests that the European welfare state may not be attracting your top-notch Muslims.

Now, as far as I knew, Muslims spawn all over the world, not only in the middle east, but in europe (as in born and bred white europeans), asia, and america. But ofcourse, this writer only believes what he wants regardless of fact.

Making the rash assumption for purposes of discussion that Islam is a religion and not a car-burning cult, even a real religion can't go bossing around other people like this.

Even a real religion? This writer gets worse. The worlds second largest religion isn't real apparently. It's as real as any religion and while I done agree with what they say in the end, it's still there,regardless of what some ponce writer believes.

Catholics aren't short on rules, but they couldn't care less if non-Catholics use birth control. Conservative Jews have no interest in forbidding other people from mixing meat and dairy. Protestants don't make a peep about other people eating food off one another's plates. (Just stay away from our plates — that's disgusting.)

Are ya joking me?!?!?! Catholics have blown up abortion clinics and go through pressure groups to political parties to controlling education to keep their religious values in with the people.

But Muslims think they can issue decrees about what images can appear in newspaper cartoons. Who do they think they are, liberals?

No, people.

Not to mention that military personnel in Iraq abusing 12 year old kids (and a lot of other stories) makes muslims very angry over the iraq war farse. But ofcourse this writer wouldn't know any of that, he's only writing for one side.

And to one liners? Not everything needs to be written out in paragraphs when it can be done in a sentence, I just don't go overboard with it, but you won't care, will you?

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