Political Correctness Gone Overboard!!!

[Mithrandir]

That's still a sweeping stereotype of most "fat cats", is it not?

[leafi]

well not meaning to rain on anyones parade but isnt it people obsessing over PC that is making it worse the more peolple argue about what is and isnt the right the more the people are going to restrict what is and isnt acceptable. i say phrase how you like as long as those it is directed at know its meant in good jest and not as an offense. and just keep on partying

[In AmericEar]

And Jim, just shut up.  You always have to disagree with everyone.  Its the fat its so stupid.  Why can't I say the Fat bloody Controller? Who the frig is it offending?

I won't shut up, love. Me disagreeing makes people think about their posts a bit more before they press that reply button. Whats a "debate" without an opposition? And come to think of it, I don't remember anyone saying you can't call him the fat controller, call him Jesus for all it matters.

What people don't fail to realise (even though it's pretty obvious) is that I disagree with people purposely to show both sides of the story, and people obviously don't like that because it challenges em, dry your eyes.

A man with one opinion is a man with one eye.

I'm going to take this opportunity to tell every one that I am a seriously stubborn person and I am getting the impression you are to Jim, but the way you are going about it is all wrong, I can tell you when I press the reply button I'm not thinking twice about what I have written because of your influence. I do not understand why you said that we all were, because frankly you don't know that. Please can you not do that again.

[Jim]

I didn't point out individuals. But it's pretty obvious people, instead of just agreeing with each other, have had to rethink their replies when I (like anyone) have disagreed and challenged them on their views.

[In AmericEar]

Dude, I am not afraid to challenge peoples views and I doubt anyone who replies to this topic is either! It just so happens that we agree on this topic. I am beginning to get the feeling you think because we all agree you should disagree... Challenge our views all you want but I will (And I am not trying to speak for everyone) not take you seriously if you only challenge us because nobody else is. Only challenge us if what you're saying makes sense and you believe in what you are saying. Don't do it for the hell of it.

[Jim]

If everyone agrees, it's not a debate. Telling people to shut up because they "disagree on everything" is not a debate either, like.

As far as this forum goes, all of my arguements have been what I personally believe in, on other forums it may be different, instead of posting in a debating forum and going "oh yeah i agree with you, they shouldn't do that", I give people a reason to back up what they say other than personal opinion. Weither anyone takes that seriously or not is up to the individual, I won't lose sleep 

[In AmericEar]

So why have you in other topics told people that you do not take them seriously expecting them to react to it?

And debating topic or not there are millions of people out there who dissagree with things that have been said on this topic. Many on this forum that just haven't posted. A debating topic is not code for 'Oh, well everyones agreeing on here lets just argue there point because no-one else is!'. That defeats the whole point, we want other peoples views, not just one pulled out of the hat because no-one else disagrees!!

[Jim]

So why have you in other topics told people that you do not take them seriously expecting them to react to it?

And debating topic or not there are millions of people out there who dissagree with things that have been said on this topic. Many on this forum that just haven't posted. A debating topic is not code for 'Oh, well everyones agreeing on here lets just argue there point because no-one else is!'. That defeats the whole point, we want other peoples views, not just one pulled out of the hat because no-one else disagrees!!

Because in other topics there are posts that are just illogical or an attempt to justify a view that otherwise people wouldn't agree with, whereas I can backup what I say and do if asked to.

Whats your point about people not may disagree but not post? There aren't millions of people on this forum, there's me, you, and a handful of others that post on this part of the forum. A debating topic is not code for "Shut up, why do you have to disagree with everyone". That's not a debate, it's not even a discussion.

And to keep it on topic.

All that is happening is free speech is being curbed and it isn't enriching our society at all - we are proud to be multi-cultural, but many people are starting to wonder "What's happened to British culture and tradition? Should we be more like the French?" (French insofar as they don't embrace other cultures at all). Political correctness is just stranging society, the government, and people's free speech.

There never has been true free-speech to be honest. It's perfectly fine to complain about immigration, yet no one dare mention anything about blacks, nazis, jews etc or they're considered racist or a fascist. Remember that Britain had an empire. Trading (or stealing, whichever you prefere) is part of that, and it ultimately opens other cultures to the mainland. Modern day British culture is based on other cultures (infact, almost all cultures are), I don't see that as a problem, ultimately all cultures are derived from one and another. I'd be lying if I said the Scottish, Irish or Polish (or any country) culture was based on no outside interference.

Political correctness can go as far as it wants in it's views (since we apparently have the farse called free speech), not practise, because people just won't impliment it, there's a big difference in discrimination of religion and race, and renaming a thomas the tank engine character. I'm glad Britain has some sort of Political correctness going on. In countries like Japan outsiders are excluded and called Gaijins (foreigners). They can't shop in the same places, use the same baths (swimmers like), or drink in the same bars or sleep in the same hotels, and while the Japanese constitution (written by America) says discrimination shouldn't happen, there's no laws to stop it.

[In AmericEar]

No, I meant that there are millions of people in this world that dissagree with me and you. There are hundreds on This Forum that dissagree with you and me, just because few of those post on here you shouldn't take it up as your mission to dissagree 'cos no-one else is!!

[Jim]

I get what your saying, but if thats the case then why bother having a debating/world events forum.

[In AmericEar]

Same could be said about every board 'If everybody on this forum doesn't reply to it in whatever way refers to that subject why bother having it?' If ya get what I mean.

[Jim]

Aye, but this is suppose to be the strict part of the forum

[In AmericEar]

Yeah but they can hardly institute a rule saying 'Every Single Member Must Post In This Topic' can they?

[Jim]

Thats not what I said though. Anyone who posts in this part of the forum should at least put some thoughts into their post, many do and some don't, and when someone disagrees, they gang up.

[In AmericEar]

Those that agree in what they're talking about gang up because they're standing up for what they believe in.

And actually I believe these people are thinking about what they're putting into their posts, and its you don't agree with what they put so it automatically has to be wrong...

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