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« #75 : June 29, 2005, 01:31:58 AM »

well in the ropical rainforest they have loads of natural cures and they've been chopped down for money ... like the trees and their natural qualities... completely wasteful

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« #76 : June 29, 2005, 02:35:08 AM »

Yeah...but it's not like the doctors would tell their patients about natural cures anyway...conventional treatment is too much of a moneymaker. 

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« #77 : June 29, 2005, 03:25:37 PM »

I can;t believe people do that though... with the moneyness of treatment s to stop people dying.. it's just plain WRONG!!!  >(

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« #78 : June 30, 2005, 09:27:36 PM »

It is wrong...A lot of people suffer because others want to make money. 

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« #79 : July 04, 2005, 07:34:04 AM »

Ah, indeed, to some doctors keeping people alive is just money-oriented, but also for other doctors it's something worth keeping, and they sometimes bulk-bill or allow the patient to pay in their own time. Not all doctors are money-hungry :)
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« #80 : July 05, 2005, 09:43:58 PM »

True, not all, but it's more the pharmacuetical companies, I'm beginning to think.

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« #81 : July 07, 2005, 12:15:40 AM »

That's disgusting.

If doctor's keep patient's alive just for money's sake - The doctor's get tons of dosh if they keep them alive, that's just wrong.
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« #82 : July 07, 2005, 12:49:56 AM »

That's assuming the patients actually survive the "treatment" that slowly tears their body apart.

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« #83 : July 07, 2005, 01:05:23 AM »

True..

But seriously if the doctor's and surgeon's had any sense, they wouldn't keep them going?
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« #84 : July 07, 2005, 12:18:21 PM »

  I am a family doctor, and I know of no colleague of mine who would prolong life simply for monetary reasons! The vast majority of physicians are ethical enough to suggest to a patient or their family when it's time to back off and let Nature take its course.
  By the way, I have no trouble using cheaper generic drugs when they are appropriate (most of the time!) or effective herbals, like Saw Palmetto or St. John's Wort. I agree that drugs are very expensive, and we in the States pay more than nations with socialized medicine, like Britain and Canada. Pharmaceutical companies make a large chunk of their profits from American consumers. Would you guys be willing to pay more for your drugs so we could pay less? If I were king, I'd make all the Pfizers, Mercks, and Astra Zenicas of the world charge the same for their products in every industrialized nation.
  But I'm not a king, just a family doc.

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« #85 : July 11, 2005, 09:13:13 PM »

Unfortunately, we in the States are so addicted to prescription drugs.  I'm not...haven't taken one since I was in 10th grade.  I wish people would see that the natural way is better, in almost all cases, as far as I know.

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« #86 : July 15, 2005, 10:17:47 AM »

  Cuthien, good for you- but I hope that if you ever get strep throat you'll take penicillin. Untreated, strep can cause rheumatic fever and destroy your heart valves.
  Likewise, if your blood pressure is high and you can't lower it with salt restriction, diet and exercise, by all means, take a medication - you'll significantly lower your risk of a stroke.
  I could go on and on but I think you get the idea.
 

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« #87 : October 06, 2005, 06:44:22 PM »

hello. umm, isnt Euthenasia where u help an old sum1 who whishes to end their suffering to umm well die  :-\

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« #88 : October 13, 2005, 07:23:06 PM »

sorry if i offended any1

y has no1 posted anythin?

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« #89 : October 13, 2005, 07:45:41 PM »

sorry if i offended any1

y has no1 posted anythin?

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Gavin your a case beyond help.

Back to the topic. I think I agree with it because my grandad was in hospital with cancer in his (whats the stomach pipe in your body called? :[). This meant he couldn't eat unless it was fed through a straw, past the lump, into his stomach. He used to be lively and he was really big. Not nastily but he did like to eat loads and drink loads.

When I saw him in the hospital though he was pale, looked so distressed and was so slim. I thought it was the cancer that had caused it, but it was the was he had been treated in the hospital that had made him like that. It really upset me at the time and i think if the NHS aren't doing their potential then why should they bother putting people through that pain?
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