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« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2004, 06:28:16 PM »

yeah thanks for that explanation. Smiley

I get you now..Carbon steel is more flexible...

but display swords are display swords whatever .  Its worth thinking about that, if you (by you I dont mean you personally) want a sword to fight with...

tho I think chopping a few weeds, out of harms way of anyone else, is quite fun Wink
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« Reply #61 on: December 17, 2004, 07:18:58 PM »

No worries  Wink

 There's some interesting information on steels on the site which has the license for the Highlander the film swords. A metallurgical analysis,  the best around you can get. Will get the link if you like.

 Carbon Steel is a term to denominate a whole series of alloys, some stronger, some softer but generally following the same precepts, a steel which resists shock, and which can be heat treated to achieve different areas of tempering, and this is very critical in some swords, but yes altogether they are more reliable and responsive, this is why some marketing terms tend to be given to it, such as  'live steel'.

 At the end of the day a lot of the quality will depend on how the sword was made, if it was forged, or they did stock removal after casting (I believe that's what they do with the LOTR ones).
 Here (as in the bladesmithign circles) some people argue that it's always best to forge, but with modern metallurgical techniques the level of refinement of the grain in steel can be achieved without forging and folding, because it already comes extremely refined, however hand forging always adds the bit of extras on the refinement and keeps a more controlled and even hardness than removing the stock with tools which always no matter how small, always causes loss of hardness.

 Then there's the step of heat treating, and there's where a lot of swords with superb steels fall into the pit of junk, proper heat treating is decisive when it comes to how long your sword can last under the strain of real use, whether it be de-weeding or cutting bamboo.

 As for the display swords, definately, I mean I'm so grateful to P.J and co for having developed what they did, after all if it had not been for them, we wouldn't have the films and what came with it, and it's only natural after all to like certain things and dislike others, but that shouldn't hinder one from enjoying it altogether  Smiley

 And yes, chopping weeds with the sword is fun, but it can dent your sword badly it it catches the ground, I prefer to go at the back of the house and terrorize the overgrown nettles  Tongue
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« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2004, 03:37:32 AM »

thats some good advice there hyllyn!!
yeah i have a paul chen practical plus katana as i cannot afford anything better at the moment though i have my eyes on either the paul chen orchid or the cold steel double edged katana  Cool
what swords do you own? (just out of curiosity)  Smiley
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« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2004, 03:49:13 PM »

 Thanks Kamui  Smiley

 oooOOOO the Moroha style Katanas are great stuff!, check the Yoshihara one here (that i btw my screen saver)  Grin... Only thing I have never been too keen on about two edged swords, is that you have to be really careful with how you deflect when you put yur hands on it, otherwise there's the chance to get cut of course. However in that respect it's good to clear a popular misconception about swords. Sword edges aren't like knife edges, the chisel edge of a knife would never hold on a sword, so a sword edge is a more rounded and continuous line which is born from the centre of the blade, it doesn't have a line demarking where it starts as knives do, so even tho it won't cut like a knife if you apply enough strenght to the cut it will cut more than a knife.

 As for what I have, here in Britain I only have a Paul Chen Viking Sword, in Italy I have a 12 inches long knife with a deer antler handle, magnificent stuff, it falls in your hand like made of plastiline, and it's just like having a paint brush in your hand, surely could write my name with that on anyone  laugh

 Next summer I have These coming to Italy, the sword you see there is made by my 'almost father, mentor type of person', fashioned pretty much after the Dha (but the vietnamese style) and the medieval sword is exactly the one I have shown in the other link before, his is an Angus trim, but he should be making one for me sometime.

 In the katana/shinken field I don't own any yet unfortunately, the reason?  as with any other swords, no matter what you may believe britain is quite restrictive when it comes to pursuing interests like there. I don't collect swords, I practice with them, and I do as often as I can. Anyway I have to say, Last legend won me over, and I need a good blade soon! not that I need it just for Iaido, but for Katori Shinto Ryu (which is what I do), so I think I'm getting the Bear MKIV Shobu Zukuri Katana... and maybe maybe a disposable P.C PP  Tongue sorry about that comment, but they are good in their range, but only his very expensive swords are woth having, shame about us the penniless  Tongue


 Ahh, as soon as I can have the forge sorted (meaning not only the kiln, and furnace, but the space to do it) I should be making my own stuff again, although I have only taken part in short swords and long knives before, but will get in the big field surely enough. here's hoping I can emulate my fave swordsmith Don Fogg!

 (don't worry that ain't advertisement link, after all how many of youhave spare $9,000 to spend on a knife or a sword?  Wink and if you do, let me know and I will get working on one for much less hehe  laugh)
 
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« Reply #64 on: December 21, 2004, 01:14:45 AM »

oooh wow!
quite a collection!
nah i know the PPKs etc are a budget sword just i can justify spending any more at the moment with me needing to buy a car etc!
though when i have the money i would like a folded blade sword!
you on blades-uk forum?
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« Reply #65 on: December 21, 2004, 03:51:17 AM »

 Aye I can understand that point, after all we all have other priorities of course  Embarrassed

 Aye I'm on the Blades UK forum, joined recently, and well also if you check I'm the guy who is making the jewellery under my enterprise called Eldayn Craftworks

 
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« Reply #66 on: December 21, 2004, 03:54:01 AM »

ah cool
one of my ex girlfriends likes the elven ring you make!!
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I hate to ruin the magic
I hate to kill the dream
but once you've been behind the scenes then you'll know just what I mean
you might think that its cool to get up on stage
and play rock and roll from your heart and soul
but no one shows up and your songs all suck
and theres no applause and no flying bras
no girls will scream for you and no ones gonna sing along with you
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« Reply #67 on: December 21, 2004, 03:59:31 AM »

 hehe great stuff

 Shame she's an ex, otherwise you could get her one  Wink

 Btw if you get the Moroha style Cold Steel sword, let me know what you think of it  Smiley
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« Reply #68 on: December 21, 2004, 04:06:24 AM »

probably cant afford one at the moment but it is nice!
if i do get one then i will give you a yell straight away!
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you might think that its cool to get up on stage
and play rock and roll from your heart and soul
but no one shows up and your songs all suck
and theres no applause and no flying bras
no girls will scream for you and no ones gonna sing along with you
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« Reply #69 on: December 21, 2004, 04:13:46 AM »

 Sure thing  Smiley

 Btw, do you use your P.C PP for tameshigeri? or is it sitting proudly on its rack?
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« Reply #70 on: December 21, 2004, 04:17:41 AM »

its sitting on its rack at the moment but i use it for a bit of light cutting every now and again like bottles etc
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but once you've been behind the scenes then you'll know just what I mean
you might think that its cool to get up on stage
and play rock and roll from your heart and soul
but no one shows up and your songs all suck
and theres no applause and no flying bras
no girls will scream for you and no ones gonna sing along with you
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« Reply #71 on: December 21, 2004, 05:23:34 PM »

 Blimey, have you checked the specs on the Museum Collection Sting?

 That is a must have!
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« Reply #72 on: December 21, 2004, 11:20:46 PM »

i would have it if it wasnt sting!
pretty much any other sword and i would
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I hate to kill the dream
but once you've been behind the scenes then you'll know just what I mean
you might think that its cool to get up on stage
and play rock and roll from your heart and soul
but no one shows up and your songs all suck
and theres no applause and no flying bras
no girls will scream for you and no ones gonna sing along with you
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« Reply #73 on: January 19, 2005, 04:02:25 PM »

Heres some of the swords or whatever you wanna call it  cheesy

Pics were a little large so changed them to links - Spikie  Wink

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/6567834/SWORD5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/6567834/SWORD2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/6567834/SWORD4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/6567834/SWORD7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/6567834/SWORD16.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/6567834/SWORD15.jpg

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« Reply #74 on: January 19, 2005, 05:11:07 PM »

jeez,man,those are the most beautiful things I have EVER seen!!!
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