The Age of the Ring (Lord of the Rings) Forum
Tolkien only Section => Movies => Topic started by: _frodo_ on December 03, 2003, 02:18:39 AM
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I wasn't sure where to put this...so feel free to move it mods!
After spending seven years making the Lord of the Rings trilogy, director Peter Jackson still isn't bored - he apparently wants to make The Hobbit.
According to reports, he said he'd "be keen" to film JRR Tolkien's book, which is set before the films he's just done.
He said: "It would be wonderful to complete the set of films." But it all depends on whether film studio New Line can get the legal rights to the book."
Rings actor Ian McKellen has said he'd love to play Gandalf in The Hobbit.
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I've heard that they are going to make the Hobbit as a film as well. They're making a game as well from the Hobbit but I don't think the game will be as good as the Lord of the Rigns trilogy though.
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Nothing will even compare to the Trilogy! It was too good! But all the same, The Hobbit (if done by PJ) will be amazing! And something to look forwards too after ROTK!
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I can't wait for ROTK as well and the Hobbit as well.
I especially can't wait for the Clothes Show Live next week as well.
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of course PJ wants to make it!
BUT, it isnt as simple as that
the ppl who own the "script rights" arent the same ppl who own the distribution rights... and there in starts a long legal tangle!!!
I reckon it'll be years before the lawyers sort it out!!! :(
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i saw they game commercial, of the hobbit!!! ::) ;D
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Hmm exactly EG. And by the time they've got that figured the cast will be complicated as well.
I mean Ian Holm and Ian McKellen aren't exactly getting any younger, and as this is a prequel they will have to look younger than they did in LOTR.
In fact just for that tiny part in the prologue for FOTR where Bilbo picks up the ring they had to give Holm a mini face lift so as to look younger.
But if true YAY I can't wait!
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Indeed, but if you read the latest reports, Mark Ordesky (the executive producer, or the man of the money if you want to put it that way) Has promoted lately the idea of it happening not very long after ROTK say a year or two. :o ;D
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There was a topic on here before about this, and someone put a quote from PJ saying basically that he was suprised that NewLine had never once brought up the subject with him
It does seem the obvious thing to do though
Weta already have half of the costumes/sets built - The Shire, Orcs, Elves etc,etc So the production costs would be less than normal
If they do do it, I think most fans would be more forgiving if they take liberties with the book, for one thing, the film should be darker, and more in keeping with LOTR
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;D ;D Bring on the HOBBIT ;D ;D
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Hey but there's something that I'm already going to hate...in LOTR we had Arwen sticking her nose everywhere....and in the Hobbit we will have LEGOLAS as part of the dwarven company sticking his nose everywhere eh? :o??? please nooooooooooooo!
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of course PJ wants to make it!
BUT, it isnt as simple as that
the ppl who own the "script rights" arent the same ppl who own the distribution rights... and there in starts a long legal tangle!!!
I reckon it'll be years before the lawyers sort it out!!! :(
.....but why would anyone want to HINDER the production of the hobbit?
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Interesting article in the Sunday Herald ... here's an excerpt:
"Producers New Line Cinema are understandably keen to cash in on their success by pressing on with a dramatisation of the trilogy’s prequel, The Hobbit, while Jackson wishes to use the hundreds of weapons, suits of armour and fantastic props left over from his epic cinematic endeavour as the foundation for a Lord Of The Rings museum in New Zealand. Both projects are now in severe doubt, however, following the refusal of Christopher, eldest of Tolkien’s four children and the author’s literary executor, to give the estate’s blessing.
“The difficulty everybody has is the Tolkien estate and the problem is always a legal one. New Line Cinema doesn’t have the authority to allow the museum to happen and I understand there are issues with The Hobbit rights as well,” said director Jackson. “It’s frustrating, because we want to thank the people of New Zealand for their support and have appealed at various times to do something for the community, but they keep saying no.”
Here's the whole article:
htp://www.sundayherald.com/38504
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I hope they do make the Hobbit. I know Ian Holm isnt getting any younger, but what if they find a younger guy who looks like him? Like they did for dumbledore..... :-\
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OMG! THEY SOOOOOOO HAVE TO MAKE THIS!
COME ON PJ DO IT!
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Am i the only one in the world who wants the hobbit to be kept as a book?
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probably there will be more of u but i want it into a film ooooo it will be dead gud ;D
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Oh im not doubting it wouldnt be good
i have complete trust in PJ and have done all along but i just think.........its just too much. Too complicated. and .....well i dont know. Im sure PJ knows best.
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I don't think the hobbit is nearly as complicated as LOTR. I still think they should make it as an animated film. ;D
I imagine the Tolkien society are considering offers - Newline won't be the only film company looking to cash in on the success of LOTR. They might palm us off with it being delayed over red tape but chances are its about money. 8)
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In the PS2 compatition that is/was on here the hobbit game I think it comes with the PS2. I entered it :)
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Oh im not doubting it wouldnt be good
i have complete trust in PJ and have done all along but i just think.........its just too much. Too complicated. and .....well i dont know. Im sure PJ knows best.
Oh I understand what you mean....
In a strange twisted way I regret that LOTR were made into films... :-\
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I don't. See, I was introduced to LOTR through the films. Actually, through my pastor's son, who told my brother...anyway. But they definitely shouldn't try another go with The Hobbit as an animated film. The last time they did that, it was messed up.
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Oh im not doubting it wouldnt be good
i have complete trust in PJ and have done all along but i just think.........its just too much. Too complicated. and .....well i dont know. Im sure PJ knows best.
Oh I understand what you mean....
In a strange twisted way I regret that LOTR were made into films... :-\
eah i know. I mean i would just like to read the hobbit and use my imagination as to what the characters look like and stuff. I can read the LOTR books now without hearing the actors voices and seeing theyre faces.I mean i LOVE the movies passionately but still....
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The Hobbit is a much quieter book, much lighter and I think it would have to be marketed very carefully. You really can't compare it to LOTR, it's a very different kind of story and I think that's where the trouble lies. My concern is that in an effort to cash in on the LOTR success, they would feel the temptation to make it a darker story and that would just be wrong. :(
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The Hobbit is a much quieter book, much lighter and I think it would have to be marketed very carefully. You really can't compare it to LOTR, it's a much different kind of story and I think that's where the trouble lies. My concern is that in an effort to cash in on the LOTR success, they would feel the temptation to make it a darker story and that would just be wrong. :(
Exactly!
The Hobbit is really more of a children's fairy tale... there's not as much depth as LOTR and like you said PJ may try and make it deeper and darker so as the LOTR movie fans who haven't read the books will not be disapointed in the prequel. :-\
I know what you mean T_E...
I can stll kind of read through LOTR using my imagination but there's always that little bit of the films in there...
And now there's a huge number of fans who just love LOTR for the movies the killing and the battles. Take the TTT playstation game for example it's just from one fight to the next. No break just fight fight and kill. But we know there's so much moe to it... :-\
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i read the hobbit when i was in yr 5 and yr6, and i still read it now altough the other 3 films are way betta than the hobbit.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
crazy-girl2
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Am i the only one in the world who wants the hobbit to be kept as a book?
Yes!! I mean, it wont b as good as Lotrs obviously, but it will still be good to do it. like a background thing 4 the 3 movies. u find out bout Gollum neway.
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but dont u think that it would be nice if this world that is being overtaken by media could for once, just this once, pick up a book and read the background of LOTR???
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in LOTR we had Arwen sticking her nose everywhere....and in the Hobbit we will have LEGOLAS as part of the dwarven company sticking his nose everywhere eh? :o??? please nooooooooooooo!
Finally! I've found someone else who hates Legolas (sorry, all you Legolas fans, but I just don't like him!)
And, yes, the hobbit is a great book, but it would also make a great film!
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The Hobbit is a much quieter book, much lighter and I think it would have to be marketed very carefully. You really can't compare it to LOTR, it's a much different kind of story and I think that's where the trouble lies. My concern is that in an effort to cash in on the LOTR success, they would feel the temptation to make it a darker story and that would just be wrong. :(
I hadnt thought about it like that. Perhaps people who hadnt read the books wouldnt understand they are so different.
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they've already made the trailer
i've seen it
december 17th 2006 i think for the hobbit
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they've already made the trailer
i've seen it
december 17th 2006 i think for the hobbit
no no no no no thats a fake
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No they can't have! PJ hasn't even been asked yet! he really wants to be asked though :P hehe i can imagine PJ sitting in his mansion next to the telephone waiting :P hehe...
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i was watching Johnathon Ross' programme thing and Ian McKellen was on there and he said that its definately gonna happen, but PJ's still talking it through with New Line and other peoples...YAY! ;D ::)
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Film rights wrangle may kill off The Hobbit
By KATIE NICHOLL and MATT NIXON in London
05jan04
A WRANGLE over the film rights to The Hobbit could wreck plans for a prequel to the blockbusting Lord Of The Rings trilogy.
Oscar-winning director Peter Jackson is desperate to complete his masterpiece with one final film based on J.R.R. Tolkien's first book.
But the legalities over the film and distribution rights are threatening to derail the project – worth millions of dollars at the box office – and disappoint fans.
New Line Cinema, the company that made the Lord Of The Rings trilogy with Jackson at the helm, owns the movie rights to The Hobbit.
But the distribution rights governing the release of the film belong to United Artists, although New Line has first refusal on producing the movie.
Sir Ian McKellen, who plays wizard Gandalf in the trilogy, has revealed Jackson is trying to obtain the film rights.
"Peter wants to do it, and if he doesn't ask me I'll be very upset," McKellen said.
The New Zealand-born director had been undecided about making a film of The Hobbit, but has confirmed plans to do so.
"I'd be interested in doing it as it would give continuity to the overall chapter," he said.
The author's great-grandson, Royd Tolkien, 34, said yesterday: "I would love to see Peter Jackson make a film of The Hobbit.
"That would be the perfect ending."
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Perhaps the mods may want to make a sticky, save on countless... I think PJ should do the Hobbit, anyone heard about the Hobbit? type threads?
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Why won't they just let him do it! He should be able to, i mean he did LOTR, it's obvious he would make just as good a job with the Hobbit! I really hope he gets rights! Would be good if he got Ian McKellen & Ian Holmes again!
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i think it would be terrible if the Hobbit isn't filmed, because it would be as great as LOTR, and they could make a lot of money, so they would be dumb if they don't give PJ the rights
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What I dont understand is that thëy madë thë LOTR moviës first thën (if it happëns) Thë hobbit instëad of the othër way around.
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Because they did already posses all the rights the LoTR movies.
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Well I'm not sure if I want the film to be made or not. The Hobbit has always been one of my favourite childeren's books and I firest read back when I was about 6... Anyway I get the feeling that Peter Jackson will try and make it more dark and bloodthirsty than it really is, so as to equel LOTR which is naturally more dark.
I'm not sure, it's generally meant to be a kind of "fairy tale" book and I'm not sure how Peter can get this aspect and yet still keep the LOTR movie fans happy.
It really would be interesting though (if he obtains the rights) to see what actors he would choose to play the roles. I hope than Ian Mckellen can play Gandalf again as he fits the role so well but I'm not sure how they'll be able to pull of having Ian Holm as Bilbo again. I mean it's a prequel so Bilbo has to look alot younger, and Ian isn't exactly getting any younger. Might be a bit tricky. For that tiny scene in FOTR where Bilbo first finds the ring they had to kind of sellotape back his face so as to give him a mini faceover to make him look younger.... I think it would be quite painful to have that done to him during the whole film! of cource the Gandalf looking younger thing wouldn't be an issue as he is an Istari whihc means he stays in the same shape, neither looking younger or older. :)
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is ian mkkellen gonna play gandalf definatley?
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I hope so ! ;D
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there is absolutely NO WAY that Ian wouldnt play Gandalf!
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they've already made the trailer
i've seen it
december 17th 2006 i think for the hobbit
Well if this were true, PJ wouldnt be doing it for starters, as he'll still be wrapping up Kong by then, I could well see this being the opening date for King Kong, but then it's more likely to be a summer release for that film. As for the trailer where did you see it? To see a trailer would mean they would have already filmed some of the film, which would be breaking copyright & licensing laws.
i was watching Johnathon Ross' programme thing and Ian McKellen was on there and he said that its definately gonna happen, but PJ's still talking it through with New Line and other peoples...YAY
It will definately happen if New Line (or any other studio), gets the exclusive Licensce rights to make the film... however at the moment NOBODY, has these exclusive rights, so we can't say that a film is definately going to be made!
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Hobbit! Hobbit! Hobbit! Come on Newline, precious....we is tireder then tired and we is ever ssso...bored. Yes preciousss, we has seen that nasssty film were that nasssty hobbit has that nasssty (but ever so beuowtiful) ring...Precious...please make the Hobbitses film, please?
"They best do precious... or we'll wring theys filfy' little necks!"
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Oh but he does. Even if it is a little, the Istari do age in their features. Chris Tolkien himself says this (J Tolkien's notes) as The Istari continue to be, although their facial features will show age and the pains of Humans.
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It would be really great if they filmed the hobbit. Cant wait to see Gandalf again ::)
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I dont think they have to film the hobbit but it would be good if they had the hobbit so that people could by the whole set films.(when it eventually comes out) :)
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the distribution rights are even more complicated than that
UA own the distribution rights for the US, but not the Rest of the World... SOOOOoooooo New Line could make The Hobbit and distribute it to us..... ;D and not the Americans... maybe let them fight it out in court ???
(probably a bit too complicated ;))
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THAT trailer was brilliant!
bbut it was the clever work of someone who cobbled together the FOTR trailer and the trailer from Reign of Fire, and stuck LOTR music over it!
Flippin brilliant I think..... but a hoax nonetheless :(
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If that is the case, New Line wouldnt consider making it without the income from the US, it's almost as much as the rest of the world put together. Nor would another studio consider it without world wide distribution rights, as that's just such a huge chunk of money to throw away.
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yey the hobbits coming to town! i hope ian mckellan is playing gandalf ill cry if he doesnt :(
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reeeeeaaaallllyyy ::) :o
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What I dont understand is that thëy madë thë LOTR moviës first thën (if it happëns) Thë hobbit instëad of the othër way around.
they did that with star wars too, hehe ::)
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Only yesterday, PJ received the all clear from Tolkien's grandson to go ahead with the Hobbit movie! Soget set for another brilliant production!
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nnooooo! its been my dream for years to make that film :'(
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Only yesterday, PJ received the all clear from Tolkien's grandson to go ahead with the Hobbit movie! Soget set for another brilliant production!
Does Tolkiens Grandson hold the rights does he?
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::) I dont really think he has any say in the matter, although it is nice to know someone from the family approves... and Im SURE Christopher WOULDNT! ::)
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plus i doubt he'll say no to the money that will roll in his direction
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Who is going to play Bilbo? I mean Isn't Sir Ian Holm a bit old for the role? :-X
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thats a good point.........although they made him look v.good when it showed him younger in fotr.....so they cud
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Yeah, But if you think about it, that was a clip that lasted 30 seconds? Would they be able to do it for a whole 3 hours or how ever long it will be?
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lol thats the thing, i dunno, i know its possible to use ian holm.......just dunno for how long
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YES!YES!YES!
*ahem* yeah, that's, er, great.
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I don't think it has anything to do with tolkiens grandson, the films rights have already been sold.
The problem is New Line have the fliming rights and United Artists have the distribution rights - its up to these two companies making a deal before we will see the hobbit made into a film.
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have they not made a deal yet? i thought they had
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The Hobbit's film rights are split into 2 filming rights are held by new line and distrubtion rights by UIP and until they can agree on terms etc they wont let it be filmed.
There is another topic about the Hobbit which tells you this in full :)
Go read this topic clickity (http://www.lotruk.com/forum/index.php?board=15;action=display;threadid=16355)
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No, they haven't made a deal yet, unfortunately. As for Royd Tolkien giving his approval, well he would wouldnt he.. he was the only member of the Tolkien family to endorse the LoTR movies, in which he had a small bit-part. Christopher Tolkien is still against it, and the distribution rights still need to be sorted out.
One thing is for certain though, New Line & PJ now seem to definately want to make a movie of The Hobbit, and they're actively persuing the rights to the film. So fingers crossed and we might yet see the movie in 5-6 years time. :)
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Computer Technology is a wonder, remember how old they made Theodin look? Well that can be expected with New Line's budget, and the LOTR teams expertise when it comes to Ian Holm. In five years time, computer graphics will have increased in scale and complexity dramatically, and that bodes well for the film i think.
As for Chris Tolkien, well he seems to be honouring what JRR himself wanted- no films made of the books. Can't really sleg him about it.
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so its still not definate that he'll be making the movie?
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J.R.R Tolkien never said he didn't want his storys made into film, he just believed it's wouldn't be possible to do, hence the reason he sold the rights to the movies for only £10,000.
This is further backed up when he gave xplicit instruction of how TTT should be filmed in regard to the branches of the story.
'It is essential that these two branches should each be treated in coherent sequence.' (The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, No 210, dated 1958, with original italics)
Meaning that it should be filmed as it is in the book.. ie the story following Aragorn etc through Rohan, then onto Frodo & Sam. Of course as we now know PJ ignored these wishes completely, and TTT movie remains probably the most controversial of the 3 films.
Christopher Tolkien, shares the beliefs of his father, in the fact that he doesnt think cinema can do the story justice, even some 45 years after the movies rights were sold, and the inherent advances in technology.. and he remains adamant of this even to this day, after the LoTR films have been made. He's even gone to the extent of basically disowning one of his sons, for endorsing the movies and taking a bit part in it! ???
so its still not definate that he'll be making the movie?
Far from definate!
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We can only wait and see with our fingers crossed and hope all turns out well
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Hey all you lord of the rings fans! correct me if im wrong but is it true that chris tolkien has given peter jackson the rights & the go ahead to make the hobbit into a movie? :-*
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Hey all you lord of the rings fans! correct me if im wrong but is it true that chris tolkien has given peter jackson the rights & the go ahead to make the hobbit into a movie? :-*
I dont think Christopher Tolkien HAS the rights to the Hobbit so I dont think he has them to give away.
Im sure there is another topic around here discussing this.
Have a look around, it will have more information on it than I know I think! ::)
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I dont really know. I think I read something on this but I cant remember where...
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great! can you keep an eye out if you see & report to me. that would be most helpful :-*
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Will do! :)
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It's new line that have the rights i think, and loast i heard PJ was having trouble getting them from new line, not entirely sure tho, says all the info in another topic.
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united artists have em, so if they can get em off there it will go ahead and new line will support him
plus i think they will get em off them if they give em a sum of money, but it said it on the pulse so i think they do av em, trust the presenters ;D
:P
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Andy Serkis says if they need him to play Gollum, he'll be there in a flash! ;D
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i dont think there should be a hobbit movie. let it be.
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Andy Serkis says if they need him to play Gollum, he'll be there in a flash! ;D
I'm sorry but I think Andy is after the cash! he has still yet, to my knowledge(and I am happy to stand corrected on this!) to land another movie... I still find it wierd that in the main it is only the "minor" characters who turn up at events like Collectormania... and EVERY Premiere..... :(
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Andy Serkis says if they need him to play Gollum, he'll be there in a flash! ;D
I'm sorry but I think Andy is after the cash!
Sir Ian really wants to do it, although he would rather it was a series of TV films, to do justice to the story... (I point this out, because I think unlike Serkis, Sir Ian wants to do it for the amazing role, in an equally fantastic story.
he has still yet, to my knowledge(and I am happy to stand corrected on this!) to land another movie... I still find it wierd that in the main it is only the "minor" characters who turn up at events like Collectormania... and EVERY Premiere..... :(
Indeed... although Elijah and the other hobbit actors have all been to at least one collectormania, and Collectormania does attracts some bigger names from other shows as well (such as Tony Stewart Head at the last one). As for premiers... well indeed.
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I know last year all the hobbits, bar Sean turned up at Collectormania... I think that Merry and Pip are still (or were) riding on a high from the promotion and popularity of it all..... they seem to attend everything atm...
but yeah. Sir Ian has a wish to do it, purely because he's become a Tolkien addict! and he also says he's looking forward to being Gandalf the Grey again, instead of the "proper" White wizard.... ;D
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::) I dont really think he has any say in the matter, although it is nice to know someone from the family approves... and Im SURE Christopher WOULDNT! ::)
Didn't Christopher Tolkien try to ban the LOTR films in the first place?
*sorry, I know that's unrelated*
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What I dont understand is that thëy madë thë LOTR moviës first thën (if it happëns) Thë hobbit instëad of the othër way around.
they did that with star wars too, hehe ::)
yea LOL why does america get everything before us - including games :'( :'(
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???that is pretty dumb huh? i mean considering the hobbit is the start of the whole tale?! but ahwell dun now, at least weel see pipin again YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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pippin isn't in the hobbit
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Tis funny to think about too.. who would play who.
I'm sure Ian would still be Gandalf..and Andy still as Gollum .. but who would be Bilbo (a younger version) ...and there'd be need for alot of dwarves... and I'd LOVE to see Weta take on the creation of Smaug!
Stupid UA .... I say let's go beat the poo outta them and get this sorted!
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I doubt they'd use Ian Holm, probably be too much of a theatrical nightmare making him 70 odd years younger every morning
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I'd love to see PJ and Weta interpret the Battle of Five Armies too! I think they could handle it, but I'd sure like to see it.
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It would be interesting to see the Beornings, and how they are portrayed. Dunno why but I always envision him [Beorn] as this huge black guy, still I would guess that'd keep the "Tolkien is racist" mob happy ;D
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LOL for some reason I pictured Beorn as a huge Swede.. I suppose the name Bjorn might be why.
Hmm... though played by Richard Roundtree... might be interesting!
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hmmm... I don't think I saw him as "black2 in the conventional sense... I do invisage him with a huuuuuge black beard and hari though. and well worn skin, weather beathen, rosy but not in a soft hobbity way. Rosy as in a hard working farmer who is "at home" when he is up searching for lost sheep in the dales, in a howling blizzard.
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LOL oh know I pictured Beorn a bit like how Hagrid is portrayed in the HP films....
Huge with a big beard... hehe I'd love for him to be in the film and all the animals waiting on him! That's be great!
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Hagrid as beorn'd be good, i wanna c wat Thorin'd be like tho...
battle of the five armies'd be pipsqeak to PJ! if he can pull off the battles in ROTK brilliantly this'll be like pie!
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sorry B and IB.... to drag this title up again... but couldnt find a topic that wasnt locked to add to it :-\
ANYWAY.... HOW COME EMPIRE think they know the release date of The Hobbit ??? They're saying December 2007 :o
http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/futurefilms/ViewFilm.asp?FID=9834
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hhmmm, do you think maybe PJ has managed to get the rights?
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I think they are working on rumour. Im sure we would know if he had attained the rights
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Yeah, i guess.Someone on here would have found out. Magazines and papers do tend to take romours out of control!
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2007 would probably be realistic, if the rights had been gained right now, or even if they are gained in the next year or so. Just so long as they get the rights some time prior to finishing King Kong.
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No doubt the film companies have got it all planned out and are just waiting for the rights to be sorted. Someone has maybe leaked a preliminary document that still has to be signed off. :)
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Oh wow that is so cool. I would just love to see the Hobbit on the big screen.
It would be nice if PJ does actually direct it, but yeah, he does need a break from all the hard work :)
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What exactly is the big to-do about the rights? Wasn't one of the Tolkiens actually IN the movies? So why is it so hard to get The Hobbitt made?
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check out this topic....
http://www.lotruk.com/forum/index.php?board=15;action=display;threadid=16355
its got all the details in it :)
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wow, thats a good bit of info.
and if its true then i guess you could say im excited and have something else to look forward to ;D
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I think they should do the movie! That way, the ones who don't want to read the book because they're, 1) too lazy (Not me, I read it!), or 2) don't understand because they are young, can see what it's all about.
2007! That's like, 3 years from now! I'll be 17! Uh oh :(
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If PJ does as good a job with the hobbit as he did with LOTR, it will be a fantastic film! I really would be looking forward to seeing how they have made smaug, if it will be realistic. Do you think they will get andy, ian holme and ian mcKellen again? That would be great!
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i'm afraid that PJ dosen't wanna do the Hobbit, he wants a break from LOTR for a while! well thats what i heard but not sure maybe he did get the rights or does wanna do the film :-\ i hope he does do the Hobbit! i can;t wait 2 see smaug!
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It seems that everyone has heard different things. I guess we will just have to wait and see, until it is officially announced, or isn't! I really do want him to do it though!
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All the Hobbit threads have been merged into this one and made sticky. So if anyone has any news on the The Hobbit, please post on this one thread from now on :)
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cool! and yes i hopr he does do the Hobbit! i don't think any1 else could do it as well!
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I wouldn't want anyone else to do it, because they would do it in their own style. I want Tolkien's books to be released on film with the same director because then they would all have that ' PJ LOTR-ness' that is now famous. I hope that makes sense, I know what I mean in my head, but I'm not good at translating it into this post.
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I understand what you mean. If someone else did the hobbit, we would be expecting it to be as great as LOTR, because we know how well PJ directed LOTR, but with someone else doing the hobbit, i don't think it would live up to all our expectations. I know i would be sitting there going "peter jackson would have done this, and that..." Know what i mean?
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Yes, I know what you mean. Also for Tthe Hobbit, we would have to have the same design team, the same production team, like WETA etc, so as to make it look like the film came from M.E itself, just like LOTR.
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ok ive said this before and i'll say it again... im not having them slaughter my favorite book like they did with lotr ;)
aslong as its 24hours long and 100% accurate i wont be happy
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Two things I have heard the most, and from the men themselves, is..........
PJ wants very much to do the Hobbitt after King Kong, and Ian has said he is on board 100% if PJ takes on the project.
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Two things I have heard the most, and from the men themselves, is..........
PJ wants very much to do the Hobbitt after King Kong, and Ian has said he is on board 100% if PJ takes on the project.
Yep, and other than trying to gain the rights to create the movie, that's about all that's been stated at the minute.
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I just wanted to say that The Hobbit movie is coming out at the 19th of December, 2006 :)
Bye!
FÉRITH
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I just wanted to say that The Hobbit movie is coming out at the 19th of December, 2006 :)
Bye!
FÉRITH
it is?So they got the rights?just another two years to wait though...
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i cant wait to see the hobbit on a wide cinema screen with a box of pop-corn! ive got the game on gamecube it pretty good however hobbiton itself is much smaller and some of the roads have been delected but in my opinion i give the game thumbs up award! :-*
dear ferith, why did you get that juicy information about the release of the hobbit from??????????????????????? :-*
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I just wanted to say that The Hobbit movie is coming out at the 19th of December, 2006 :)
Bye!
FÉRITH
nothing has been confirmed yet :)
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I think the battle of five armies would be great! They could also do brilliant stuff with the battle with Smaug and how he dies. The trolls as well, interesting to see how they do them. I can't wait for the film, wether it has been confirmed or not...
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I just wanted to say that The Hobbit movie is coming out at the 19th of December, 2006 :)
Bye!
FÉRITH
Well considering, King Kong is not likely to be released until mid to late 2005, then that would mean either Peter Jackson won't be making The Hobbit, or he's gonna make it in like 6 months.
*sigh*
How many times does it have to be stated that:
No one studio has the rights to produce a film of The Hobbit as yet.
The rights issue *may* NEVER be sorted
if Peter jackson is going to make the film once the rights have been gained, filming wouldn't start until VERY LATE 2005 at the very earliest, but more likely 2006.
With a lead time of approximately 2 years (at least) to make the film, considering the above the film wouldnt be completed until late 2007 and possibly well into 2008.
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i agree
i hardly think that peter jackson has already set a date of it's release when he hasn't even got the rights to film it yet :)
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OMG if they make the hobbit they might be filming it when im in NZ for my gap year! coool!
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I want to see Mirkwood i bet that will be good!!!
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Mirkwood and Smaug! They'll prob film it in NZ again won't they?
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Mirkwood and Smaug! They'll prob film it in NZ again won't they?
without a doubt
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There was no point in starting a new topic for this because this one is kind of about future JRR Tolkien films.Do you think they would consider making the Sil? I ain't read it yet so i don't know if it would be mega hard etc.
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There was no point in starting a new topic for this because this one is kind of about future JRR Tolkien films.Do you think they would consider making the Sil? I ain't read it yet so i don't know if it would be mega hard etc.
Though I would love to see that happen, I just think it would be such a huge undertaking that no-one would attempt it. I'd love to be proved wrong though ;)
You should definately read it Goldberry :)
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Dont worry! I'm getting it for my birthday! Might take me a while but i'll be sure to let everyone know when im done! :)
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i was hoping that they would make the hobbit,
I heard last week that Peter jackson was makin the Hobbit i was really happy cos i thought they should've done the hobbit bfore the lotr 1s
I LOVE U LEGOLAS 8) :-[ ;D
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They have a thing these days about making begginings after middle films, you know, like star wars and silence of the lamb trilogy. But i guess it's different in this case, because the hobbit is kind of a completely different story, although it is linked.
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The Sil would almost be impossible to make a film of, as basically it isnt a story in it's own right, but more rather a collection of stories and histories. To make it flow into one story would really mean assassinating the book.
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The Sil would almost be impossible to make a film of, as basically it isnt a story in it's own right, but more rather a collection of stories and histories. To make it flow into one story would really mean assassinating the book.
I know you're right, but there is still a part of me that would love to see some of those stories on screen. ::)
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The Sil would almost be impossible to make a film of, as basically it isnt a story in it's own right, but more rather a collection of stories and histories. To make it flow into one story would really mean assassinating the book.
I know you're right, but there is still a part of me that would love to see some of those stories on screen. ::)
Maybe some sort of mini-series would serve the purpose better... some things are doable by film and some just aren't given justice in a three-hour slot.
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A mini series of each of the stories!! I always said they should make a LOTR miniseries, but not like star wars on cartoon network where it's animated :-X
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The Silmarillion - I hope no one ever attempts to bring this to film, and especially not as a tv mini-series. (shudder). There are very few miniseries in the fantasy genre that have not been - for the most part - cheesy.
The Sil is too involved, too beautiful, too tragic, too epic, and I fear it would be ruined. There are too many parts (The Music, The War of Wrath, and so on) that I don't think could ever be captured well on film. Plus there is not enough dialogue to copy and/or go by, so a huge amount would have to be completely made up.
IMO, the Sil should forever remain only a book.
I know there are certain 'parts' of the Sil that people have said they wouldn't mind seeing made into film, like the story of Beren and Luthien as it's own film, etc. Yet I don't feel that filming chunks of the Sil would work either. Without the history that comes before (for example) stories like Beren/Luthien and Turin Turambar, so much would be confusing and lost in the telling. While it worked well to show a brief glimpse of the Last Alliance battle at the beginning of the FOTR film, (as a means of setting up what came after)I think it would be impossible to 'brief up' the necessary history if only a portion of the Sil was adapted to screen.
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I don't know if it's been mentioned, but WETA has said they will only work on a production of THE HOBBIT if PJ directs the film. This makes sense, for WETA made the designs for LOTR and the films should 'look alike'.
I'm all for a HOBBIT film, but only if PJ does it.
I would love to see Mckellen as Gandalf again, but Ian Holm is (I agree) just too old now. That works fine for the very brief shots where he is younger in the LOTR film, but probably wouldn't work for THE HOBBIT.
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I feel that if PJ isn't going to be directing The Hobbit, then it shouldn't be made at all.If he directs it it will have the seem realistic feel as LOTR and if someone else directs it, they will change it too much. Ian McKellen should play Gandalf again, and i imagine he would! As for Ian Holme, i dont think he could pull of being a young Bilbo!
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I hope he does make a tv series ( or movie) about the "Hobbit"
It would be excellent
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you know, everyones on about how they think that ian holme shouldnt play bilbo, but i tihnk that with his face taped as in LotR and a brown wig he could pull it off quite nicely! after all, whenever i read the hobbit now, i do picture him as biblo. and even before i never imagined bilbo as a very young hobbit.
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i hope they do do it but its taking forever for them even to get the rights, its going to be like 2010 befor it even comes out on film, thats even if they acctually get the rights of the tight arses that are holding the rights, its such a pain grrrrrrrrrr ;D
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Yeah, it will take a long time, 'cause wasn't PJ gonna make King Kong first? I heard that, but I think The Hobbit should be first priority lol.
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you are so right, come on king kong
i want to c hobbit first
come on the hobbit ;D
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whenever i read the hobbit now, i do picture him as biblo
I actually do too.I picture him to look like he does in th eprologue of FOTR.I suppose they could pull off having him play Bilbo! :)
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ive got the hobbit on game cube it rocks! fingers crossed, lets hope he gets the go ahead to make the hobbit! :-*
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Yeah, it will take a long time, 'cause wasn't PJ gonna make King Kong first? I heard that, but I think The Hobbit should be first priority lol.
Yeah but pj did spend 8 years making
lotr, dont you think he needs a little break from
middle earth?
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I don't. They all say how sad they are that it's finishing, this way it doesn't happen!
Lets hope the Fellowship' happens, then we can all have a little bit more of ME in ourr lives!
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I think it would be so cool if they did make a film about the Hobbit. Of course, I don't think it would be the same if they used different actors from the Lord of the Rings. It would be nice if they are able to keep the original actors because when I read the books now, and imagine it in my head, I imagine the characters as the people who played them in the films. I don't know if anyone else is like that ;D
I would love to see the Hobbit on the big screen. It would give us something else to look forward to when Return of the King Extended Edition DVD has been released ;D
Balin
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There is talk that New Line may actually go back to the drawing board, and create its own story set in a time either between The Hobbit & Lotr, as a prequel or a sequel that follows on from RoTK, should they not be able to secure the rights to The Hobbit.
Personally Im not sure if this is such a good idea. Anyway there is an article about this, and the complex rights issue over a TORn which can be found here: http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1077156370
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that was a good read. really cleared things up for me, thanks Morgul.
i check their archives once in a while but i havent read much on this tolkien and rights thing lately.
lets all hope it woks out. and think, we could be in for more excitement yet ;D
though i wouldnt want them to carry on from the fourth age as it would not be as tolkien intended. as intrigued as i am about Eldarion and the reunited kingdom and Valinor ;D ;D ;D
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soz for beeing off the point but im a flyin talkin donkey u have been deleated off the board and some one will be contacting u shortly about a certin thing c ya alien/monkey ;) ;D, thought i would remind u hehehe in a fun way of course ;D :P
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??? what the hell was that all about ???
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Durin - There has been on argument between her and an older member about a topic that was started a few days ago. Apparently it was copying from a previous topic. The point is that it has been blown out of proportion, as it seems to have spread to other topics.
Can we please just forget about that argument about that topic now Lizzy?
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thanks dill, you dont mind me calling you dill do you dill ::) ;)
well that clears things up a bit.
now if i hear anymore arguing im taking off my belt, and thats not meant to be rude ::)
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Thinking about they could probably pull it off, if they followed on from LoTR.. although its not an actual book.. they could follow most of the history from the appendices, and it would be no worse than what they actually did to the LoTR story IMHO, the story of the Shire, following Merry & Pippin, the story of Arwen & Aragorn etc, most of it is already essentially written in print. They could go right upto the point where Sam and or Legolass & Gimli set sail over the sea.
Would be kinda nice to see all that history be told
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well there would be a lotof gaps as Legolas and gimli didnt leave for valinor for another 120 years ;D
hey, same year aragorn gave his life away ;D busy year it appears ;)
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I agree, Would be good to watch the Follow-up. ;D
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well there would be a lotof gaps as Legolas and gimli didnt leave for valinor for another 120 years ;D
hey, same year aragorn gave his life away ;D busy year it appears ;)
Yep true, but they could use a bit of artistic licence.. much the same as they did with the recent movies.
might not be as action packed.. due to the lack of major wars.. but there were still a few skirmishes and stuff for a while, with the remenants of the dark forces.. perhaps enough to keep the blood thirsty fans happy.. besides its only one film, not a trilogy so it doesnt have to be as in depth. :)
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It would be good to see how they would show the follow up, although i'm not sure if alot of Tolkien fans would be happy, you know? Because they would be trying to create something in Tolkien's world that he never really wrote about in detail. I personally, think it would be great to watch.
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A follow up! Sounds TOO strange to me.... hope they dont! Its like theyre trying to cash in on the ME thing... without really caring about whether it would work or make sense ::)
Just read this....
Q&A with Peter Jackson - by someone who was there:
'I was privileged enough to attend a showing of RoTK at the Director's Guild, where Peter Jackson attended a Q&A session. I met him afterwards, and had time to ask him only ONE question. Here's what I chose: "Would Andy Serkis and Hugo Weaving also be willing to return to their roles for THE HOBBIT?" Jackson's answer was "Oh, I guess they would...(after thinking)...I'm SURE they would."'
(Andy Serkis played Gollum, Hugo Weaving Elrond)
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I bet, Ian M, Ian H, Andy and Hugo would all come back for the Hobbit. I wonder who they would get to play all those dwarves! LOL!
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I don't know. Sir Ian Holm looks a bit old to play Bilbo in the Hobbit in my opinion.
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They could make him look younger. They did it at the start of FOTR. I reckon they could pull it off! :)
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I have to agree that Ian Holm will definitely be too old for all the action in the hobbit by the time they get to filming. I do hope that they don't pick someone so young looking as they did to play the 50 yrs old Frodo. A 50 yr old hobbit like Bilbo was at the time of the hoobbit has too look at least like he's lived a bit
Lessa
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Personally, I hope they don't make the Hobbit for a good few years...well until I'm in my last year of drama school and can be in it :)
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I think that if Ian Mckellan was in any way fit to do Gandalf he would jump at the chance (if he could) but lets face it it hes not getting any younger.
It woudl be a damn shame if they had to find a different one bit if its going to take PJ 2 years to make King Kong and he would want as much effort to go into that as he has his previous films then the Hobbit is going to take as long by which time Ian wil be even older
It could turn out to be a disaster if they started filming and soem thing happened to him :(
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But Gandalf is old anyway, so it wouldn't really matter if he looks old. It's only Ian Holme they would have to worry about looking old, because he HAS to look young to play young bilbo!
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Personally, I hope they don't make the Hobbit for a good few years...well until I'm in my last year of drama school and can be in it :)
2006 - 2007 pre-production at the VERY earliest. Later if the rights situation isn't sorted out. Enough time to finish drama school? :)
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I won't have finished, but I'll be well into it...which is cool. ;D
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I think the Hobbit film will be just as good as the trilogy as it is a great book!
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very well said rosie or princess 1 and i think it wil be a gud one 2 come on peter get the film made ;D
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More of the same kind of news.. but this time with a bit of insight from PJ.
NEW YORK - Peter Jackson (news) won't be returning to the Shire any time soon.
The Oscar-winning director is planning to film "The Hobbit," the prequel to "The Lord of the Rings," trilogy by J.R.R. Tolkien, but two studios must first duke out the legal rights to the film.
Jackson said New Line has the rights to make the movie, but MGM has the rights to distribute it.
"I guess MGM's lawyers and New Line's lawyers are going to have a huge amount of fun over the next few years trying to work it all out," he told reporters recently in Los Angeles, according to AP Radio. "I'm obviously busy for a couple of years on King Kong so those lawyers can just go at it for a long time."
"The Hobbit" tells the story of Bilbo Baggins, who finds a powerful ring and eventually passes it on to his nephew, Frodo Baggins. Frodo's journey to Mount Doom to destroy the ring is the basis for the "Rings" books and films.
Jackson said if he were going to direct the movie, he'd want it feel like the rest of the trilogy.
"I'd want Ian McKellan to be back as Gandalf, I'd want it to feel like it was part of the same mythology that we've done with Lord of the Rings," Jackson said.
On Sunday, Jackson won an Academy Award for best director and shared the adapted-screenplay award with his two co-writers for the final "Rings" film "The Return of the King."
"Return of the King" swept this year's Academy Awards (news - web sites), winning 11 total.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040304/ap_en_mo/people_peter_jackson_1 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040304/ap_en_mo/people_peter_jackson_1)
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Ian Holm may not be healthy enough to do it any way he had a health scare not long into the filming of the Trilogy didnt he.
If they made him look young enough in the flash backs then they could do so again but it could be all to strenous for him
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To be honest ... I didn't really see Ian Holm as Bilbo (ie I didn't think he looked much like the older Bilbo) in the flash-back to the Hobbit in the prologue. So ... if Ian is not well enough, then I think there is the possibility of finding another actor that looks similar. What do you think?
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Just kidding.
Yes, it would be cool if they made a film of The Hobbit.
Starring that guy who played Bilbo Baggins in LOTR, Eljiah Wood, Sean Austin, Billy Boyd, Gandalf, etc.
They would probably enjoy it too, a reunion and all...
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i think that jakson will try and cast the the original actors as the caracters, they can do amazing things wiv make up these days,
i hope they make a hobbit it would be amazing
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I don't think ian Holm will be too old to be honest. If its within the next 10 years, hmm I guess depending on when they started filming, if the scenes were filmed in the next 7, I think he'd be ok to play the part of Bilbo.
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Well, one idea I had, and tell me if it's massively lame, was:
What if for certain characters there be a "wink-wink" and have, like, the parents of main characters be played by the children. For instance: Sean Astin be younger Gaffer, and so on. Might get kind of confusing. But for the elves, they don't have to change anyone - you can see Legolas in the Elf King scene... and so on.
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Well, one idea I had, and tell me if it's massively lame, was:
What if for certain characters there be a "wink-wink" and have, like, the parents of main characters be played by the children. For instance: Sean Astin be younger Gaffer, and so on. Might get kind of confusing. But for the elves, they don't have to change anyone - you can see Legolas in the Elf King scene... and so on.
Yeah i thought about that, i think it'd be good to have some characters from lord of the rings not in the hobbit to play background characters or other small rolls. Legolas could be there in the Elf King scene thoguh yeah!
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yeh, but people who arent that familiar with the story line will be confused if the see sean astin and lotr caracters in the hobbit playing different caracters
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yes but on the otherhand you would never be able to tell gimli was JRD in all that makeup.. so really they could have all the same case and just make them into old fat dwarves and nobody would be the wiser ;D ;)
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yeah! and it isnt as if there arent HUNDRED's blinking dwarves in that book ;) ;D
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Yeah as long as they have lots of make up on, you're not gonna think they are who they were in Lord of the Rings
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true, but not everyones got gigantic beards to hide there face
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You seen what they can do with make up nowadays? Some of the cast could be dwarves behind beards yes and you'd not know it was them. But then you can still have them dressed as elves or people from lake town and you'd still probably not know if the amke up was good enough.
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precisely. thought it would be hard to make an elf out of merry or pippin ::)
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yeh i agree you could that but casting actors of lotr wud be an unnesccisary use of money on make-up, theres plenty of new actors out and about
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True but after how much all the cast of LOTR's enjoyed themselves I imagine they'd all jump at the chance to be in The Hobbit, plus the make-up may cost a bit but I bet you the film would be better for it, partly because how great friends the actors already all are and it'd probably make the actors play their roles a lot better.
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If the actors from the LOTR wish to be in the hobbit, PJ could probably change the story slightly, so that some of the characters from LOTR are involved in The Hobbit. Most of the elvish characters could be used, because they are immortal and show no age.
If these characters are 're-used', then it will also provide the film audience with something that they can recognise, as they will have known the characters from LOTR.
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yeh not a bad idea, i know ur not going to agree wiv me spikes, but i dont think people will go too mad for actors who have already appeared in the lotr saga, i agree with Erkanbrand if hes gonna cast the origional actors, he shud have them as the origional caracters,
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arent you supprised pj didnt start of by making the hobbit?, i mean making a 3 part trilogy is quite risky if viewers didnt like the first film then he wouldnt have got enough funding to carry on the saga.
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one thing I do wonder about though is the spiders and trolls. The trolls and spiders in the hobbit could talk, I think the spiders talknig would ruin it and not be realist enough. The trolls would need to talk really though, so i'd hope they'd not be too...dodgy and unrealistic.
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yeh he'd definetly have to leave out the talking spiders and also the talking eagles
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the book was a truly wonderful masterpiece that I really need to read again to fully understand :)
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i loved the hobbit, i read it after the lotr and it was so gud, i loved the eagles it was the best part about it, i loved it when they rescued them from the wolves and goblins, i was so happy seeing them in the return of the king, i was so happy when i saw them :)
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PRESS RELEASE
"THE HOBBIT" TO BEGIN PRINCIPAL PHOTOGRAPHY IN NEW ZEALAND in 2005
New Line Acquires Distribution Rights; Paul Andersson to Direct; McKellan, Serkis to Return
(Los Angeles - April 1st 2004) - The Hobbit will begin principal photography in Wellington, New Zealand, in 2005, under the direction sci-fi/fantasy director Paul Andersson, it was jointly announced today by Robert Shay, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of New Line Cinema; Michael Lyne, President and Chief Operating Officer of New Line Cinema; Mark Ordesky, President of Fine Line Features; and Andersson, who is also a writer and producer of the production.
Following the unprecedented world-wide success of The Lord of the Rings trilogy, capped by 11 Academy Award(R), acquiring the rights to distribute The Hobbit was of paramount importance to New Line, a division of Time-Warner Inc.
President and Chief Operating Officer of New Line Productions Mark Ordesky said: "What Lord of the Rings has proved is that [fantasy] can be synonymous with quality drama and storytelling."
The agreement between New Line Cinema, which held film rights to The Hobbit, and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc., which possessed the distribution rights, includes share of costs and profits, with New Line Cinema to retain creative control of the project. The distribution rights will be split between the domestic and international markets, with New Line taking the domestic distribution rights and MGM taking the international rights.
At the helm of the project is well-known science fiction and fantasy Director Paul Andersson, the young director whose portfolio includes smash successes such as Resident Evil, Event Horizon and Mortal Kombat. After earning critical and commercial acclaim for Event Horizon, Andersson relishes picking up after the success of The Lord of the Rings films and staking a claim in the Tolkien landscape, bringing to life the earliest of J.R.R. Tolkien's novels, The Hobbit.
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of New Line Cinema Robert Shay said: "A big reason for the franchise's success has been creative people. Andersson is so passionate about the subject and we feel very confident he can stay loyal to the precedent."
Andersson will begin work on the film immediately following the release of Alien vs. Predator, the latest installment of the highly successful Alien series, to be released in August 2004.
Based on J.R.R. Tolkien's first novel of Middle Earth, The Hobbit tells the story of Bilbo Baggins and his adventures with alongside a band of dwarves intent on recovering their treasure from the treacherous Dragon, Smaug. Bilbo and the dwarves are accompanied on their journey by the mysterious wizard Gandalf, to be played by a returning Sir Ian McKellan. While in pursuit of the dragon's treasure, Bilbo finds a magical golden ring and runs afoul of the evil Gollum (Andy Serkis).
WETA Workshop will return to execute armor, miniatures, creatures and special effects make-up under the direction of supervisor and Academy Award(R) winner Richard Taylor.
Michael Lyne, President and Chief Operating Officer of New Line Cinema, said: "The works of Tolkien are among the greatest adventures ever written, and the road to making this film is proving to be a wonderful adventure in its own right. Like Bilbo, the hero of this saga, we're on a film 'quest.' "
Andersson said: "My team and I are looking forward to pouring our hearts into The Hobbit, so it's a great thrill to know we will be taking up residence in Middle Earth."
Leading the cast will be Sir Ian McKellan, who reprises his role as the wise wizard Gandalf. Sir Ian, who was knighted for his contributions to the performing arts, received an Oscar(R) nomination for his portrayal of Gandalf in The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. Equally loved by fantasy fans for his role as Magneto in X-Men and X-2, Sir Ian's screen successes include Emile, Apt Pupil, Scandal, And the Band Played On (Emmy nomination and CableACE Award), Cold Comfort Farm, Rasputin (Golden Globe Award), Richard III, Bent and Swept From the Sea. He has had a stellar career on stage in England and the U.S., and received the Tony Award for his role in Amadeus.
Also returning will be Andy Serkis, whose ground-breaking performance brought to life the unimaginable Gollum. Prior to his role in The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers and The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, Serkis has played a huge range of parts in theatre in London and across the United Kingdom. Recently critically acclaimed roles include Iago in "Othello" (Royal Exchange Theatre); Potts in the original cast of "Mojo" by Jez Butterworth; "King Lear" and "Hush," all for the Royal Court Theatre.
Founded in 1967, New Line Cinema is the entertainment industry's leading independent producer and distributor of theatrical motion pictures. New Line licenses its films to ancillary markets including cable and broadcast television as well as to international venues. The company, which is a subsidiary of Time Warner, Inc., operates several divisions including in-house theatrical distribution, marketing, home video, television, acquisitions, production, licensing and merchandising units.
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So looks like PJ isnt going to direct it.... :( :( thats going to be SO wierd.... but I guess King Kong is getting in the way timewise ??? because it looks like Newline want to get a move on with it :o Filming starts this Autumn!!! :o
the Hobbit to be released Summer 2007 ............. 3 years away!
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*crosses fingers that this isnt a late April fool!*
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Who's Paul Andersson? Have we seen any of his stuff?
Three YEARS!! :(
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sorry.... looks like it is an April Fool :(
the Copyright on the site says....
MMIII NW LINE PRODUCTIONS. ™ THE SEUL ZEANTZ COMPANY D/B/A TOLKEIN ENTERPRISES UNDER LICENSE TO NW LINE PRODUCTIONS. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
YEAH right ::) :( :(
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Oh right! LOL! Phew! ;)
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Yes, its a fake.
There is also this:
"Special Announcement
April 2nd
Stay tuned"
Now why would there be a special announcement the day after it's announced, which just happens to fall on the day after April Fools Day ... ;) ::)
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:D the hobbit will be an amazing film but not as good as LOTR
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It was definately an April Fools joke more info at http://www.thehobbitfilm.com/
Where they are going to be starting a campaign to let NL & MGM/UA know how much the fans want to see the film made!
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:D the hobbit will be an amazing film but not as good as LOTR
I agree, it could be good but no way will it beat LOTR
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Hi
I love Lord of the rings. My fav movie is the Return of the King.
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No offence but if you want to advertise your site then please put them in your signature please thanks. :)
I don't think that they should make the Hobbit into a film now. If they wanted to make it into a film then I think they should of made it before they made the other three movies.
I think it will spoil it now and I think it should just remain as a book. The Hobbit game is cool though.
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Check out this site (theres too much info there to copy it all)
TORN are asking ppl to write, YES write :o to campaign for the Hobbit.... emails and petitions only have so much power, but the power of the handwritten word has SO much more!
So check it out.... and send letters and postcards!! NOW!!!! (if you check out the site, it has postcards and letters you can download, if you dont want to write your own!)
http://www.thehobbitfilm.com/
(heres the addresses....)
Robert K. Shaye
New Line Cinema Corporation
888 7th Avenue
New York, NY 10106
Alex Yemenidjian
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc.
10250 Constellation Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90067
Danny Rosett
EVP Marketing and Distribution
United Artists Corporation
10250 Constellation Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90067
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woah cheers for that I am gonna write :)
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hobbit is really cool, i like it a lot,
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There has been a response to the letter writing campaign!!
Good news.... though no definate committments!
Dear Loyal LOTR Fans,
Thank you very, very much for the incredible outpouring of support for LOTR, and your eagerness to see THE HOBBIT.
We, at New Line, are most touched and appreciative of your compliments, and your passion for the remarkable work of the author, the filmmakers, talent, and craftspeople.
We are also, as you, most anxious to see THE HOBBIT realized.
Please be assured that there is, in no way, a crass argument with MGM or anyone over money or rights. In fact, no discussions about any settlement of our respective claims, has been commenced. When, and if, such discussions ensue, be assured that we intend to be equitable and appropriate to the spirit of Tolkien, and THE HOBBIT. We will, as much as possible, "do the right thing", respecting the incredible loyalty and appreciation of the worldwide fans. We hope that MGM will feel the same.
However, we also wish to have the film overseen by the best possible mentors - and, for us, if possible, that means Peter and Fran. They are totally occupied by KING KONG now and, we believe, will be the next twenty-four months, or so.
So our efforts will take time to realize.
Sincerely,
Robert Shaye
Co-CEO/Co-Chairman
New Line Cinema
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It's optimistic, but mostly it seems like this letter - at least in part - is a polite way of letting us know that 'campaigning' for the film to happen isn't really going to get anywhere or make it happen any faster.
I can only imagine how many letters they have gotten about this. ;D
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true :)
with TORN behind it there must have been millions. ;D
The good news is that they are prepared to wait for PJ to find time to produce it tho :)
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The Hobbit has a different tone and lightheartedness to it , and that's something PJ would really have to pay close attention to if he directs it. While some of the humor in the LoTR films was well-placed, some of it (the belching and tossing jokes, for example) were just poorly thought out. (imo)
Still, PJ is the man for the job. Not only because he's proved he can well-visualize Middle Earth and (for the most part *cough* Faramir *) it's characters, but also because I think he's earned the right to film The Hobbit.
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??? TOSSING jokes- they mustve gone right over my head!!
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Are they actually making "The hobbit"? Cos personally I dont think they should, cos they've had the climax and everything of the whole of tolkiens works and blah blah and no way could "the hobbit" be anything as drmatic as the lord of the rings, so it will just be one big fat let down!!
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The Hobbit is a great book, i do hope that they make a film of it...
:)
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Are they actually making "The hobbit"? Cos personally I dont think they should, cos they've had the climax and everything of the whole of tolkiens works and blah blah and no way could "the hobbit" be anything as drmatic as the lord of the rings, so it will just be one big fat let down!!
Since the Hobbit is the pre-emptor of LOTR, I dont see how it could possibly be a let down! It features many different characters... and a DRAGON!! NOw that on its own has got to be worth seeing ;D
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EG has a very good point. I think the Hobbit would make a fantastic film!!!! ;D
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Yes, I must say that I think the idea of making a film of the Hobbit is an excellent one.
Imagine if Peter Jackson gets the opportunity to create a dragon how fantastic that would be! ;D
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This may be old news but PJ is doing "lovely Bones" after "king kong"...Longer wait for the hobbit
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they must make The Hobbit! i wanna see Smaug!!!!!!
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it will be brill if they do! 8)
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Elijah Wood on Radio 1 this morning was talking about The Hobbit movie saying tht he hopes that it is made because he is worried about the fans having withdrawal symptoms this christmas. He also said that it would be silly for him to try for a part in it and that he wouldnt want to play someone like bilbo 1 coz he has already played frodo so it would be weird for him and the fans and 2 he thinks no actor could match up to the preformance given by Ian Holm as Bilbo.
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the film company NBC, who have recently purchased Universal Studios.... now have their sights set on MGM!! (the people who own the international film rights to the Hobbit!)
Sony were thinking of buying MGM, but their time ran out. BUT! Now also Time Warner are interested in buying MGM!!
Since MGM own the International film rights to the Hobbit, and Time Warner were the ones who backed LOTR... a deal here... could well help to concrete the making of the movie ;D
http://www.nydailynews.com/business/story/200698p-173251c.html
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SOOOoooo Elijah definately wont be playing Bilbo in The Hobbit.... he seems to want Ian Holm to play it! but also admits he's probably too old now :(
ELIJAH WOOD can't wait for THE LORD OF THE RINGS prequel THE HOBBIT to hit the big screen - despite vowing he won't star in it.
After the runaway success of PETER JACKSON's fantasy trilogy, the New Zealand movie maker immediately revealed plans to bring JRR TOLKIEN's first novel - which focuses on FRODO BAGGINS' older cousin BILBO - to the big screen.
SIR IAN HOLM played Bilbo in The Lord Of The Rings, but at 72 he is far too old to take on the hobbit in his younger years - and Wood couldn't bear playing another hobbit character.
The 23-year-old says, "I hope it gets done - it would be a nice little reminder of that world again.
"I wouldn't want to play Bilbo having already played Frodo - it would be strange for the fans and for me."
And he admits it will be a daunting prospect for any actor to take on: "I don't think you can out do Ian Holm's performance."
"Any actor would be afraid to approach the role after seeing what Ian Holm did with it as it truly is perfect."
full article here (http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/0/3E65D794E77EA36180256EAC002E5AE3!opendocument)
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I must admit, i first thought that Ian Holm was a strange choice for the hobbit, but when he was on the big screen, i thought that he was made for the part! The tricky part now is finding someone to replace him :-\
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yeah, i wasnt convinced at first by ian holm but soon i thought he was wonderful! 8)
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i admit, apart from Mckellen i hadn't heard of a single one of the cast from LOTR, or did the Matrix come out befote it? it'd be hard putting another actor in Holm's boots. He has this aura aroundd him that makes him PERFECT for a hobbit. Come on even at 131 he STILL has that excited sound in his voice that says he'll go on a adventure.
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do you not think they will get Holm to play the part again?
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Well I think elijah put it the way i would by saying it would be a nice reminder, and also a greater depth to the world of tolkien to movie goers.
I defenetely cant wait to hear what happens.
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I hope they make the hobbit film aswell because i am missing watching the films even though i have all the dvd's. It would be real gd if they made afilm that was situated way before all of the ring buisness started. cool!
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i think the hobitters are a tad tired of them now (they had to get up at five!) time for a change.
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Dont know if this has been put here but you could go sign the petition or write a letter to one of the companies
Sign Petition here (http://www.petitiononline.com/hobfilm/)
Write to the film companies here (http://www.thehobbitfilm.com/)
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i dont get all this petition signing and letter writing. They know we want the film but they cant get the rights ???
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I know I understand what your saying but the petition and letters will be forwarded on to the film makers to show that the people who go to see the films would like to see The Hobbit made thus prompting them (hopefully) to get there bums into gear about it all
cannot hurt to try can it ;D
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ah yes i get what u mean
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if the hobbit duz cum out den dat will b amazin coz pj is best at the sort of fantasy stuff like what the hobbit is all about!
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I've seen the cartoon movie of The Hobbit and i say that it wasn't at all any good! >:( If he made an ACTUAL movie of it, it would probably be really good.. I mean all they would need are people to play the parts.
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I know I understand what your saying but the petition and letters will be forwarded on to the film makers to show that the people who go to see the films would like to see The Hobbit made thus prompting them (hopefully) to get there bums into gear about it all
cannot hurt to try can it ;D
but the film makers are now hinting gently to lay off as there is very little they can do about it in any case, since PJ is busy with other movies for at least the next 5 years...
plus there are also the possible legal wrangles with the possible takeover of MGM who own the International Film rights to the Hobbit....
the one petition made the film makers aware that the public want the film made... but it aint gunna be a quick process!
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i still think they should do it. if PJ can't do it, they should find a director with the same veiws as he....cause the actors arn't gettin any younger...and they won't exactly be able to make the then 28 year old elijah look like a kid....unless they would use someone who looks like him....which i would be most angry about...i don't know...its been a couple years since i read it..and knowing how su*ky with dates that i am...frodo probably would'nt even be in it...Would someone please come along and slap me first, then correct me? :-X :-\ ;)
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Come on (replying to what Frodeh said on the first page) Ian has to play Gandalf!
And I cannot wait till I see the film! It'll it be fantastic! *Is excited*
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i fink it'd b well cool if they did do the Hobbit but it would b a bit off a challenge i fink 2 make the Trolls and what not look real but i'd definatley go c it if they did make it! i hope they get da legal rites 2 da book soon!!!!!!!1
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Frodo isnt in The Hobbit book, so the Elijah issue wouldnt be there.
Someone new would be needed to play a young Bilbo tho, but Elrond and Gandalf could still be played by the same characters
The legal wrangle isnt over the book, its over the International Distriubtion rights of the MOVIE itself. Theres no point in making the movie, if they cant distribute it to anyone ::)
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and obviously it wouldnt be the same if the film wasnt produced directed and starred in by some existing cast and crew. that includes working with Newline.
so basically for the film to live up to many movie goers expectations they need a resolve that allows newline and PJ to work on the project.
unless the existing owners to the rights plan on making the film then i see no reason why not to make a large wad of cash by selling ???
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and it looks like Time Warner are winning atm, as Sony have failed to put a bid in for MGM (who own the film rights for The Hobbit)!
Thats a good point tho D... they will also get better credibility from having some of the same actors in the roles.... so the fliming of it would also depend on what Ian McKellen, and Hugo :-* Weaving are doing at the time as well!
(heee heee I get to see Elrond Aaggggggggggaaaaaaaaiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnn ;D *swoon*)
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droool ???
you like ::)
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hahha! you raided our photo album :o
awww..... dont we make a lovely couple ;D
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So New Line aren't making it? :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'
Why not? They made the Trilogy, it will be daft looking if MGM make it. Just like Sierra making the Fellowship and the Hobbit into a game instead of EA. :'( >:( :'( >:(
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of course New Line will make it! ::)
They own the film rights, they just dont own the distribution rights. But pretty soon the company that owns New Line will most probably also own the one that holds the distribution rights.. and then everything will be plain - ish sailing from there!
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Thank God! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Will the man that was Gloin in LOTR FOTR be Gloin again (he was sat next to Gimli in the Council of Elrond)?
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BAD NEWS!!! :(
Unfortunately Time Warner who own Newline cinema have now pulled out of their bid to buy MGM, as they didnt offer a price that MGM would accept....
so this means that unless they re-enter the bidding war, then they wont own the Film Rights to the Hobbit :(
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i heard about this. i doubt they will renenter the bidding. I dont think they wanted to take the risk with it. they did eneter it a bit hasitily. its a shame thou. looks like the hobbit is no closer.
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I dont want to dampen any one's spirits I mean I would love for them to make the hobbit but I read an article a while back in which PJ said he wasn't actually gonna make it, but if new line get the rights he will obviously jump at the chance. But imagine whole long it would take the cast to get ready especially those playing the dwarves John Rhys Davies make -up took like four/five hours to do imagine 13 of them!!!!!!!!!!
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well theyd just need a bigger makeup team!
shame... seems like its gonig to be a long way off now :(
cant see MGM entering into Film Rights negotiations ... whilst theyre trying to sell up :-\ :(
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SOny have got MGM, hence sony have got the rights. worrying?
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phhhhhpptttphpphhh
oh blimey! well taht could draw the process out more
I dont think it'll mean that Sony will necessarily make it... coz they dont own all the rights :-\
and I guess PJ can work for whoever... but it smells of nasty legal wrangles doesnt it :(
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I dont think it'll mean that Sony will necessarily make it... coz they dont own all the rights :-\
they do i think
and I guess PJ can work for whoever... but it smells of nasty legal wrangles doesnt it :(
i think pete only wants to work for new line
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OK History Lesson
Back in 1969 Tolkien sold the rights to The Hobbit to pay off a tax bill to United Artists (owned by MGM) . MGM then went on to sell the Movie rights to Saul Zaentz (who used them to make the animated Hobbit in 1978)
After many legal wrangles, Saul Zaentz sold the Movie rights onto New Line Cinema after approving a treatment of the rights put forward by Peter Jackson.
However MGM retained the Distribution Rights (something theyve done on a lot of films, and I have also read that they actually only own the Distribution Rights for the US and not the rest of the world!)
NOW... Time Warner (who own New Line Cinema) were putting in a bid to buy MGM. IF they had gone through and successfully bought MGM they would have owned both the Movie Rights AND the Distribution Rights to The Hobbit
However since they have now pulled out and Sony have reportedly jumped back in (after they themselves pulled out a few months ago) the legal wrangles will continue.
(the reason that everyone wants to buy MGM is that they have a HUGE movie library - which includes the Bond movies... all of which have the potential to be put onto DVD and redistributed on the movie market)
referenced in the main this article on TORN http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1077156370
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What is the latest news on the hobbit film?
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the above :) ;)
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if they do actually make it (which in an article in the irish sunday world new line said they were)who does everyone think will play bilbo? i have the game on the xbox and its quite good. a little childish perhaps. and they added in a bit about the necromancer. Elvurith***
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Ian McKellen is on Standby to make the Hobbit, with Peter Jackson!
"Sir Ian McKellen says he and “Lord of the Rings” filmmaker Peter Jackson are “standing by, waiting to find out whether we’ll be heading back to Middle Earth” to make the feature version of J.R.R. Tolkien’s “The Hobbit” – which, as fans of Jackson’s monumental film series know, remains to be adapted to screen.
“There was a heady moment when the two companies who share the rights (New Line and MGM) seemed to be amalgamating and they would have gone ahead,” notes the esteemed actor, who’d like to play his “LOR” wizard Galdalf again. That didn’t happen, however, and now they’re back to a waiting game. Jackson has been hoping that the “Hobbit” legal matters can be sorted out while he makes his currently-in-production “King Kong.”
reference here (http://channels.netscape.com/ns/celebrity/hollywoodexclusive.jsp?column=/becksmith_jsp/content/hol20041011.htm)
NB - Usless piece of info time! Ian McKellen hates being called Sir, he even refused to present an Oscar until they agreed to announce him as just Ian McKellen and not Sir Ian McKellen!
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yer of course there is a hobbit movie there has to be the world would end without 1!!!!!!
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I thought they already had the rights to the film? It wud b ace to c the Hobbit on the big screen tho ;D
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I thought they already had the rights to the film? It wud b ace to c the Hobbit on the big screen tho ;D
read above
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Well, I am hoping they make it, or all we'll have is that awful Rankin-Bass animated adaptation. Elves should not look like monkeys and hobbits should not look like barrels! (praying, praying for a new adaptation)
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Okay... for anyone wondering... Watch the trailer!!! (http://www.lathamfilms.com/widescreen_hobbit_trailer_latham.mpg) New Line productions... of course. ;) But if anyone is able to watch MPEG things, then this is a good thing as you'll be able to finally see the trailer like me. ^_^
EDIT: WHOA!!! Though they did stuff from LOTR, it looks too freaking cool!!! 8) ;D
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I'm sorry. I may be something wrong, but it goes to the page and nothing shows up. HELP!
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WAAHH HOW many times has this trailer come up ???
its a spoof trailer made about 18months ago, cobbled together the lotr trailer and the reign of fire Dragonslayer trailer ...
its very good, but it AINT real!
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http://www.lathamfilms.com/hobbit.html EG, I don't think it's a spoof... I think they're actually coming out with it. :-\ :o
EDIT: I hate it when you're right. ::) Dammit. ::)
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its made by Latham films ... ;) Steve Latham made it ....
its dead good tho! ;D and the music is the best! I love that soundtrack! Shame they didnt use it in the movies themselves :(
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its made by Latham films ... ;) Steve Latham made it ....
its dead good tho! ;D and the music is the best! I love that soundtrack! Shame they didnt use it in the movies themselves :(
Yep, and Steve had me fooled when I saw that trailer. Should have looked at the page to see that it's not the ACTUAL TRAILER. :-[ They should have used that music in the movies! Would have been AWESOME to hear that! But didn't they use that in the ROTK trailer, that song? :-\
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yeah! they used it in the TTT trailer, dont think they used it in the ROTK trailer.
Requiem for a Dream, beautiful! They used it in the trailer because there wasnt time to compose anything new for the trailer, so found that music, its from another film, instead.
Shame, I think it fits Helms Deep SO WELL!
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As Phillipa Boyens said on the DVD's the books still exist, by creating the movies Peter Jackson have not destroyed the book's memory or in any way tried to be better than the books. The books are still out there and will always be forever. The movies are just an interpretation.
But a very good and loyal interpretation of the books.
I trust that if the Hobbit were made Peter Jackson would not give in to any pressure from studios or executives....he would do what he knows best and that is to stick to the spirit of the books.
He'd bring all the characters to life so much. It would be brilliant to see Thorin, Beorn, Smaug etc....
Ian Holm would be fantastic as Bilbo again.
There are extra scenes from The Hobbit that appear in The Unfinished Tales. Maybe those would be brought to the screen and be included in The Hobbit. If it ever gets made.
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Oy, I hope they make it.
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I hope it will be Peter Jackson who does it, i mean he has the stuff allready don't he? lol! well i hope we get to see it soon!
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Amen!
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Of course Peter Jackson will make the Hobbit. It's obvious lol.
I think it's going to be an excellent movie, as I am sure, alike to the trilogy.
I also think that Peter Jackson definately ( obviously ) know's what to use, especially with WETA on board with this too :)
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omg that trailer is soo beleivable, wish that was the actual trailer cos it looks well good
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Yes, I totally agree it is unbelievable... :P Looks an amazing teaser trailer... I bet the full end one will be "breath taking" :laugh:
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are they actually making the hobbit as a film .... because the last time i heard about it they were just contemplating it ..... where's the spoof trailer or whatever it is?? I would love to see it ;D
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A slimmed-down Jackson, who arrived in Sydney yesterday, was asked today how long it would be before he started production on The Hobbit.
Advertisement:
"Three or four years would be accurate, I would say," Jackson said.
The rights to J R R Tolkien's novel, The Hobbit, are split between two major Hollywood studios, MGM and New Line Cinema.
Jackson said he was keen to return to Middle Earth for The Hobbit but that MGM's sale to Sony Corporation made the project's future unclear.
"I think there is probably a will and a desire to try and get it made," he said.
"But I think it's gonna be a lot of lawyers sitting in a room trying to thrash out a deal before it will ever happen."
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12523941-23109,00.html
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Wow, I've finally seen the trailer...someone worked hard. It was impressive. :)
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They should begin working on it immediately!! ;D
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Amen.
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I forget the site but as an april fools joke they said Steven Spielburg was going to do the hobbit on there.
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Has anyone heard of The Hobbit movie for real?
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? what do you mean ?
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Sorry, I said heard of...I meant heard about. Has anyone heard of any news concerning a film being made?
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an update on news on the making of "The Hobbit"
7/10/2006
Rumors tell that at WETA the Hobbit movie is already in production.
5/27/2006
Ian McKellen told in an interview again that he would love to play Ganfalf in "The Hobbit".
From the interview:
Q: If "The Hobbit," the prequel to "The Lord of the Rings," were made into a movie, would you want to play Gandalf again?
MCKELLEN: I would love to do "The Hobbit," yes. Partly because I would hate to see anybody else playing Gandalf.
Article in CNN.com
4/28/2006
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3/22/2006
Saul Zaentz, producer and one of the holders on the rights of the Hobbit movie expresses his optimism that the movie could be made soon.
From the following article: "And fear not, lovers of furry-footed wee folk: Zaentz vows there will be a film version of The Hobbit, just as soon as the slightly more complicated legal entanglements around that property are ironed out."
Article in jam! Showbiz
3/15/2006
MGM, the owner of The Hobbit movie distribution rights, has changed its company politics. They are looking now for partners for the production of new movies. How this will affect The Hobbit movie is unclear, but we can hope.
Article in Media InfoCenter
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Source: Variety (via comingsoon.net): In a Variety article talking about
MGM's move back into the tentpole business, the trade mentions a few
highly-anticipated projects that are in the works:
'Over the next few years, MGM is planning to release half a dozen films,
some in the $150 million to $200 million-plus range. Studio is ready to
unveil such high-profile projects as "Terminator 4"; one or two installments
of "The Hobbit," which Sloan hopes will be directed by Peter Jackson; and a
sequel to "The Thomas Crown Affair" with Pierce Brosnan.
It has already announced a "Pink Panther" sequel and the next 007 pic "Bond
22," due out in November 2008. "Rocky Balboa" unspools in February.
The pics are all franchises that MGM owns the rights to through its
4,000-title library. The goal is to release two or three tentpoles a year,
all of which will be made with financial partners, including Wall Street
money or other studios.'
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4/28/2006
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the latest news from TORN
Apparently PJ will not be directing The Hobbit
http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1163993546 (http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1163993546)
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Do you beleive that?
the way its written, it looks like a fake :-\
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Do you beleive that?
the way its written, it looks like a fake :-\
I have to say that the English in it - in places - is so bad which makes me think that it's not really an official "press release".
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and its far too "chatty"
as if he would release something to TORN anyway..... he hasnt written to them personally in the past :-\
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Well, the BBC seem to believe it and their article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6167972.stm) seems a lot more believable.
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The Times seems to think so as well. Must be nice to be in a position where £200 million doesn't seem like enough.
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http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=242681>1=7701 (http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=242681>1=7701)
:O hes not doing the hobbit!!!
(he looks so wierd now)
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Aww, no! :(
But maybe it's for the best, after the great LOTR films it would have been difficult to make The Hobbit live up to people's expectations...
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Interesting article in Empire Movie News (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=20036) which suggests that Peter Jackson was contemplating two prequels ???
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two prequels... unless he thought that the Hobbit would be two movies :-\
hmmm interesting..
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Soooo because PJ is still suing New Line, rightly or wrongly, he most definately wont be making The Hobbit.
However, New Line do need to be making The Hobbit before the end of 2008, because thats when the film rights resort back to Saul Zentz ... and WHO knows what will happen then!
The latest rumours are :
New Line chief Bob Shaye recently had a few vague things to say about the state of the "Hobbit" movie.
Apparently New Line has claimed 2009 as a release year for "The Hobbit," most likely because they have to plant some sort of flag in order to hold on to the book rights. There's no script yet, no director in sight, and a whole lot of other questions floating around. Not to mention the lawsuit. But yeah, "2009" is what we're being told.
it is also being rumoured that Sam Raini may well be making it :
Mr. Raimi (director of "The Evil Dead" flicks, the "Spider-Man" trilogy and a bunch of solid genre titles like "Darkman," "A Simple Plan," and "The Quick and the Dead") has informed his Sony pals that he's considering/discussing/pondering about "The Hobbit" project.
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That would be real awsome if he did I mean come on whyc stop at return of the king? ah hell make 5 more lord of the rings movies!
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And now there are rumours that Peter Weir might direct it. And also rumours that Peter Jackson and New Line are talking to each other again.
So who do we think should play Bilbo? I assume Ian Holm's temporary face lift in FOTR is not sustainable for a whole film?
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I'm assuming everyone already knows this but just in case...Guillermo del Toro (Pan's Labyrinth) is to direct The Hobbit. He's moved to New Zealand for the next 4 years to direct the two films. We've got to wait until 2010 before the first instalment. PJ is executive producer whatever that means but at least he's part of the venture. Sorry if this has no doubt been posted elsewhere :[
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It's not looking good peeps....
Guillermo Del Toro has announced that he will no longer direct the upcoming movie adaptation of The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien.
The Mexican director blamed the "ongoing delays" of filming the novel but called the decision the "hardest" of his life.
"After nearly two years of living, breathing and designing a world as rich as Tolkien's Middle Earth, I must, with great regret, take leave from helming these wonderful pictures," he told fan website The One Ring.
"The blessings have been plenty, but the mounting pressures of conflicting schedules have overwhelmed the time-slot originally allocated for the project.
"Both as a co-writer and as a director, I wish the production nothing but the very best of luck."
Lord Of The Rings director Peter Jackson, who is producing The Hobbit, added that he was sad to see Del Toro leave.
Jackson said: "The bottom line is that Guillermo just didn’t feel he could commit six years to living in New Zealand, exclusively making these films, when his original commitment was for three years.
"Guillermo is one of the most remarkable creative spirits I’ve ever encountered and it has been a complete joy working with him."
Del Toro recently revealed that the movie still did not have a start date.
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So what happens to the film rights now?
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Well, there's still the Ralph Bakshi version! (dodges a ripe tomato)
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That's rather disappointing.. :( Though I'm still holding out hope that the movies will be filmed!
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Scratch that last statement! They ARE making the Hobbit! :D
It won't be released until 2012 (at the earliest)..
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^ I knew this. And rejoice at being reminded :3
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I'm SO excited about the films! The anticipation grows as it nears completion.. :)
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I've been following PJ's video blog and the more I see, the more excited I become. It's going to be awesome!
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Where can I find that?! :o